>It's important to remember that Java has been around for 20-30 years and it certainly has not stood still. Many of the complaints people have are from Java of

>It's important to remember that Java has been around for 20-30 years and it certainly has not stood still. Many of the complaints people have are from Java of 10+ years ago. Exactly. I spent about 5 years away from Java after J2EE made me swear it off. I learned a bunch of other languages and frameworks and recently went back. Java is awesome now. Unlike 5 years ago is relatively easy to avoid all the clunky old crap if you want to.