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I think that holds only if your time is worth nothing. I don't want to go through weeks of interviews just to find out that my salary demands are $50K more tha

I think that holds only if your time is worth nothing. I don't want to go through weeks of interviews just to find out that my salary demands are $50K more than they're willing to pay.

nicolashahn 9y ago
This is exactly why I made the comment. Recently went through 4 calls and a full day on site just to be met with an offer they wouldn't budge on that's 20% lower than what I currently make.
- wvenable 9y ago
  The time everyone puts into it is part of the negotiating process. A company will budge if it's worth it for them -- and your job is to convince them it's worth it. If the first thing out of your mouth is salary and they balk at that then you never even get to the negotiating phase. A few failures, like you had, is simply part of the process. I don't think it's reasonable to expect to be successful a job hunting every time you go into the interview process. The time you put in is part of that process.
- basseq 9y ago
  I've been through a similar situation: big mistake. They key is to validate you are in range on salary before committing to an interview process. Companies should have the same goal, but many will waste their own time—as you experienced. This doesn't mean you should share current salary information, but does mean you should be prepared to state your salary expectations. This can be a good thing, as you can anchor high. If you're in demand and are taking phone screens on a whim, you can always ask the recruiter to share their range. Odds are good they won't, and you can have some "fun" by expressing concern that they don't know what they're hiring for.
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Retric 9y ago
They need to convince you it's worth going through that much effort. It's also completely reasonable to ask what a position pays.
dragonwriter 9y ago
This law requires them to provide salary ranges on demand to applicants, which addresses that without you giving them any info.
s73ver_ 9y ago
That's why part of this law states that the employer has to provide the salary range upon request.
ciro_langone 9y ago
"Saving time" during the interview process doesn't make sense if you're going to spend the next X years being UNDERpaid at your job. If we assume that your time has some amount of value, you are always better off withholding your desired salary. If you want to see whether or not they're going to be a potential employer, ask them for a ballpark of what they're willing to pay. But there is no reason for telling them free information.

I think that holds only if your time is worth nothing. I don't want to go through weeks of interviews just to find out that my salary demands are $50K more than they're willing to pay.

nicolashahn 9y ago

This is exactly why I made the comment. Recently went through 4 calls and a full day on site just to be met with an offer they wouldn't budge on that's 20% lower than what I currently make.

wvenable 9y ago
The time everyone puts into it is part of the negotiating process. A company will budge if it's worth it for them -- and your job is to convince them it's worth it. If the first thing out of your mouth is salary and they balk at that then you never even get to the negotiating phase. A few failures, like you had, is simply part of the process. I don't think it's reasonable to expect to be successful a job hunting every time you go into the interview process. The time you put in is part of that process.
basseq 9y ago
I've been through a similar situation: big mistake. They key is to validate you are in range on salary before committing to an interview process. Companies should have the same goal, but many will waste their own time—as you experienced. This doesn't mean you should share current salary information, but does mean you should be prepared to state your salary expectations. This can be a good thing, as you can anchor high. If you're in demand and are taking phone screens on a whim, you can always ask the recruiter to share their range. Odds are good they won't, and you can have some "fun" by expressing concern that they don't know what they're hiring for.
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Retric 9y ago

They need to convince you it's worth going through that much effort. It's also completely reasonable to ask what a position pays.

dragonwriter 9y ago

This law requires them to provide salary ranges on demand to applicants, which addresses that without you giving them any info.

s73ver_ 9y ago

That's why part of this law states that the employer has to provide the salary range upon request.

ciro_langone 9y ago

"Saving time" during the interview process doesn't make sense if you're going to spend the next X years being UNDERpaid at your job. If we assume that your time has some amount of value, you are always better off withholding your desired salary. If you want to see whether or not they're going to be a potential employer, ask them for a ballpark of what they're willing to pay. But there is no reason for telling them free information.