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This is a very common move by food companies right? Curious as to what can be done to stop it? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-indust
by sna1l 9y ago
This is a very common move by food companies right? Curious as to what can be done to stop it?
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-in...
- ianai 9y agoSociety either has to fund more researchers with more money and accept the ramifications of that or accept companies funding their own interests. The same applies to campaign funding.
- emodendroket 9y agoThis seems like a more serious answer to me.
- fleitz 9y agoAlso, stop reading the news, when you see someone healthy, ask them what they do and/or pay for their advice. (A lot of healthy people are in the wellness industries) Being healthy isn't rocket science, but on the other hand it involves a lot of lifestyle changes.
- wallace_f 9y agoStop perpetuating the cultural idea that 'anything white collar is OK as long as you do it for money.' The corrupt researchers should be left without a job, just as, say, a food truck worker who plotted to intentionally profit from selling expired products would be fired and criminally charged. In both cases the actors are unethically profiting from your misfortune.
- emodendroket 9y agoSurely it is primarily the organization which deserves censure, rather than individuals operating within the system. Unless you basically want to lock up entire fields' worth of scientists I don't see how individual responsibility is a solution.
- bdamm 9y agoIsn't this part of the problem? When we (Americans) work for money, we don't do much investigation of where that money comes from. And really, how could we? It would take forensic accountant type of skills to really do that job. Maybe that's the fundamental cultural basis; if people felt it was important to know where the money comes from that is paying them they might think more about what work to take. There's a sense of urgency to getting and staying employed in America which counteracts this ability to be judicious about what work you take, which is perhaps the underlying cultural driver.
- emodendroket 9y ago> There's a sense of urgency to getting and staying employed in America which counteracts this ability to be judicious about what work you take, which is perhaps the underlying cultural driver. Uh, yeah, of course there is, because the alternative is penury. If you make scientists liable and change nothing else the result is not going to be a great scientific system that works for the average Joe.
- wallace_f 9y agoSo what is your solution? This happens in every industry, by the way: “Patterson's award for this discovery [the age of the earth]? A world of trouble. He didn’t know it, but he was on a collision course with some of the most powerful people on the planet [for discovering widespread lead pollution by accident].”-from the 2nd Cosmos
- emodendroket 9y agoWell, some degree of nationalization would be my answer.
- burkaman 9y agoWhat is the difference between an organization and the individuals who make up that organization?
- afandian 9y agoBetter bibliographic metadata and links, recording authorship, funding and affiliation. This is what organisations like Crossref (where I work), DataCite, ORCID etc are trying to do. Setting standards for, collecting and making available this information makes joining the dots and scrutiny easier. If you're interested in this kind of thing I recommend PIDapaloooza conference. https://pidapalooza.org https://pidapalooza.org (Posting in a personal capacity)