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How I wish Marvin Minsky would have stayed alive for one more year and seen this. He would have been so happy!

bradleybuda 9y ago
In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. “What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said. Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher. “So that the room will be empty.” At that moment, Sussman was enlightened. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html
- tedunangst 9y ago
  So Sussman was right the first time?
  - zardo 9y ago
    A random net has some random preconception. That doesn't mean it's a bad idea to try random preconceptions.
farresito 9y ago
I think he was cryopreserved, so he surely will be surprised once they wake him up in the future, assuming cryonics really works.
- thefalcon 9y ago
  I'd certainly be surprised if I ever woke up from being cryopreserved. Which isn't to say that I'd object to the process if I had the disposable income and an understanding/cooperative family support structure, which I do not.
  - tim333 9y ago
    I wonder if it would be more popular if the cost was reduced to something similar to a regular funeral. It seems it might be a more cheery send off even if the chances of it working are questionable.
    - thefalcon 9y ago
      You can already buy an insurance plan that will pay for it in some states, and that's reasonably priced. In my case religious family members would never let it go down though even if the finances were solved.
goatlover 9y ago
And he would have still said that deep learning lacks any sort of common sense understanding that's necessary to get close to human level intelligence.

In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. “What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said. Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher. “So that the room will be empty.” At that moment, Sussman was enlightened. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html

tedunangst 9y ago
So Sussman was right the first time?
- zardo 9y ago
  A random net has some random preconception. That doesn't mean it's a bad idea to try random preconceptions.

farresito 9y ago

I think he was cryopreserved, so he surely will be surprised once they wake him up in the future, assuming cryonics really works.

thefalcon 9y ago
I'd certainly be surprised if I ever woke up from being cryopreserved. Which isn't to say that I'd object to the process if I had the disposable income and an understanding/cooperative family support structure, which I do not.
- tim333 9y ago
  I wonder if it would be more popular if the cost was reduced to something similar to a regular funeral. It seems it might be a more cheery send off even if the chances of it working are questionable.
  - thefalcon 9y ago
    You can already buy an insurance plan that will pay for it in some states, and that's reasonably priced. In my case religious family members would never let it go down though even if the finances were solved.

goatlover 9y ago

And he would have still said that deep learning lacks any sort of common sense understanding that's necessary to get close to human level intelligence.