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After working for startups, "work hard, play hard" is a red flag phrase. Employees are employees instead of entrepreneurs because they don't want the headaches

After working for startups, "work hard, play hard" is a red flag phrase. Employees are employees instead of entrepreneurs because they don't want the headaches of running a business. They want to do the work that they enjoy doing and have the energy at the end of the day to socialise, spend time with family and pursue other interests. Don't expect employees to be as interested and excited about [revolutionising|disrupting|dominating] industry X as you are, because they don't have the financial and social incentive an owner or executive has. It's fake and soul-destroying that modern corporate culture forces employees to feign being over-enthusiastic about the company's success for fear of getting fired. David Mitchell put it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiDTKEF1ek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiDTKEF1ek

justherefortart 9y ago
Working for businesses that are "fast paced and agile" is my red flag. No management or no desire to be good at IT because "we're not an IT company". So you're always short changed, behind and not meeting their needs, when they haven't even been defined. Oh and Sally & Chuck saw you leave early the other day, we can't have that. Even though you're putting in 50-60 hour work weeks. Oh Sally & Chuck are admin assistants as well, so their opinion matters in this company that runs like your high school social groups did, except less efficiently.
indigochill 9y ago
>..."work hard, play hard" is a red flag phrase. In my experience, it appeals to a certain segment of employees. That is, young single employees who get most of their social interaction at work. In that context, it seems to make some sense to work long-ish hours and also stay "at work" late attending company parties and such. They don't really have anything to go home to, so work becomes like a second home. But for employees with more attachments, I agree. Then you just want to put in your time doing something you like and go home.

justherefortart 9y ago

Working for businesses that are "fast paced and agile" is my red flag. No management or no desire to be good at IT because "we're not an IT company". So you're always short changed, behind and not meeting their needs, when they haven't even been defined. Oh and Sally & Chuck saw you leave early the other day, we can't have that. Even though you're putting in 50-60 hour work weeks. Oh Sally & Chuck are admin assistants as well, so their opinion matters in this company that runs like your high school social groups did, except less efficiently.

indigochill 9y ago

>..."work hard, play hard" is a red flag phrase. In my experience, it appeals to a certain segment of employees. That is, young single employees who get most of their social interaction at work. In that context, it seems to make some sense to work long-ish hours and also stay "at work" late attending company parties and such. They don't really have anything to go home to, so work becomes like a second home. But for employees with more attachments, I agree. Then you just want to put in your time doing something you like and go home.