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I went in to the movie not knowing that Tarkin was CGI - I assumed he was a stand-in and makeup - and came away none the wiser. After I was told he was CG, it

I went in to the movie not knowing that Tarkin was CGI - I assumed he was a stand-in and makeup - and came away none the wiser. After I was told he was CG, it was obvious and weird... Wonder how much of the uncanny valley stuff left is in our heads?

TillE 9y ago
I know a few people had that reaction, but I went in blind too and the CGI was painfully obvious. They had close-ups of Tarkin which looked really terrible. CGI is superb at creating indistinguishable still images, but animation is still riddled with problems.
- flamedoge 9y ago
  animation was too "perfect" in my eyes.
  - Chaebixi 9y ago
    he looked like a wax figure from madame tussauds that was animate
    - falcolas 9y ago
      At least wax figurines get lit realistically, the one place most CGI seems to fail.
qznc 9y ago
It is easy to A-B test. Maybe someone has done that already?
- anderspitman 9y ago
  What would you ask the test subjects though? Seems to me as soon as you say anything regarding realism a lot percentage would notice things they wouldn't have before. I'm sure a clever experiment designer could come up with something though.
  - qznc 9y ago
    Show a mix of video clips. Swipe left for real. Swipe right for CGI. After a few clips, show how often you were right. Hit the HN frontpage.
ddrager 9y ago
Had the opposite reaction. Went in not knowing, then when I saw Tarkin and Leia I was kind of thinking, wtf? They digitally rendered their faces? When I talked to friends afterwards they didn't notice it. This must be pushing some sort of mental limit of our brains - not everyone recognizes faces/cg the same as others.
- mark-r 9y ago
  I was blown away by Tarkin, I kept thinking how in the heck did they bring him back exactly as he was? Leia was another matter, something was not quite right with her.
  - falcolas 9y ago
    It's funny, while both felt pretty plasticky; Leia looked much better to my eyes than Tarkin. The brevity and minimal movement helped, I think.
- jetpacktuxedo 9y ago
  Out of curiosity, did you see it in 3D? Most of my friends that saw it in 3D were complaining about how bad the renderd Leia and Tarkin were, but very few of my friends who saw it in 2D had any complaints about it.
Pigo 9y ago
I almost find this hard to believe, unless you seen it somewhere with poor resolution or lighting. Sure they did a good job, but they were so noticeable it broke the spell of the movie for me. They are the best proof that we are still in the uncanny valley.
- cstrahan 9y ago
  I saw the film on one of those tiny in-flight screens (maybe 9 inches diagonal?) and even there it was painfully obvious.

TillE 9y ago

I know a few people had that reaction, but I went in blind too and the CGI was painfully obvious. They had close-ups of Tarkin which looked really terrible. CGI is superb at creating indistinguishable still images, but animation is still riddled with problems.

flamedoge 9y ago
animation was too "perfect" in my eyes.
- Chaebixi 9y ago
  he looked like a wax figure from madame tussauds that was animate
  - falcolas 9y ago
    At least wax figurines get lit realistically, the one place most CGI seems to fail.

qznc 9y ago

It is easy to A-B test. Maybe someone has done that already?

anderspitman 9y ago
What would you ask the test subjects though? Seems to me as soon as you say anything regarding realism a lot percentage would notice things they wouldn't have before. I'm sure a clever experiment designer could come up with something though.
- qznc 9y ago
  Show a mix of video clips. Swipe left for real. Swipe right for CGI. After a few clips, show how often you were right. Hit the HN frontpage.

ddrager 9y ago

Had the opposite reaction. Went in not knowing, then when I saw Tarkin and Leia I was kind of thinking, wtf? They digitally rendered their faces? When I talked to friends afterwards they didn't notice it. This must be pushing some sort of mental limit of our brains - not everyone recognizes faces/cg the same as others.

mark-r 9y ago
I was blown away by Tarkin, I kept thinking how in the heck did they bring him back exactly as he was? Leia was another matter, something was not quite right with her.
- falcolas 9y ago
  It's funny, while both felt pretty plasticky; Leia looked much better to my eyes than Tarkin. The brevity and minimal movement helped, I think.
jetpacktuxedo 9y ago
Out of curiosity, did you see it in 3D? Most of my friends that saw it in 3D were complaining about how bad the renderd Leia and Tarkin were, but very few of my friends who saw it in 2D had any complaints about it.

Pigo 9y ago

I almost find this hard to believe, unless you seen it somewhere with poor resolution or lighting. Sure they did a good job, but they were so noticeable it broke the spell of the movie for me. They are the best proof that we are still in the uncanny valley.

cstrahan 9y ago
I saw the film on one of those tiny in-flight screens (maybe 9 inches diagonal?) and even there it was painfully obvious.