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I've discovered something akin to the uncanny valley - 4K video. It looks so sharp and clear it feels artificial. Not sure how long it will take to get used t

by DougN7 9y ago

I've discovered something akin to the uncanny valley - 4K video. It looks so sharp and clear it feels artificial. Not sure how long it will take to get used to.

jinushaun 9y ago
Agree. 4K video + high FPS makes real life look 3D graphics.
- SurrealSoul 9y ago
  I think we just need more "real life" events in 4k video and high fps. Right now the only thing associated with that is 3d graphics in video games
  - fenwick67 9y ago
    Some sports are broadcast in high FPS IIRC, but not in 4K (which would be great).
    - kuschku 9y ago
      Actually, Sky broadcasts all Bundesliga and world cup games in 4K at 60fps.
fenwick67 9y ago
60FPS movies do this to me - everything tends to look like a stage play.
- marzell 9y ago
  Actual movies in 60fps, or movies in ~24fps on a TV that is using interpolation to produce 60fps output? The interpolated/faked experience is often known as Soap Opera Effect [1]. I really dislike interpolated video, but really do enjoy 'real' 60fps video. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation#Soap_opera_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation#Soap_oper...
  - fenwick67 9y ago
    I mean 60fps movies - like when I went to see The Hobbit in theatres. I like it too, don't get me wrong, but it takes some getting used to and gives a different feeling. Like a painting versus a photograph. But yes motion interpolation is awful.
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    The 48fps version of the Hobbit was jarring for a number of reasons. I'd be interested in seeing a movie with more real actors and sets at a high frame rate, just to have a better point of comparison.
noam87 9y ago
I've noticed it too with a friend's TV. Some shows / movies become unwatchable because it's so distracting. -- I think part of it is that many of the artificialities of the screen become too obvious: the lighting, the makeup, the fact that many elements on a set a plastic / CG, oddities in perspective, etc... all of these elements are "fuzzed up" by a lower resolution and FPS, forcing your brain to fill in the gaps -- ironically more convincingly. Sometimes in art, less really is more. Many modern Sci-Fi flicks fail to achieve that feeling of wonder precisely because they are shooting for too much realism in their special effects, I think. The problem is not CGI itself, but the technology does seem to make it too tempting for the filmmakers to fill in blanks that are perhaps better left up to the viewers' imagination.
- DougN7 9y ago
  I think you've hit on it. I feel like I'm on a movie set watching the actors when watching 4K, as opposed to getting into the story like normal (can't remember the term for that...)

by DougN7 9y ago

I've discovered something akin to the uncanny valley - 4K video. It looks so sharp and clear it feels artificial. Not sure how long it will take to get used to.

jinushaun 9y ago

Agree. 4K video + high FPS makes real life look 3D graphics.

SurrealSoul 9y ago
I think we just need more "real life" events in 4k video and high fps. Right now the only thing associated with that is 3d graphics in video games
- fenwick67 9y ago
  Some sports are broadcast in high FPS IIRC, but not in 4K (which would be great).
  - kuschku 9y ago
    Actually, Sky broadcasts all Bundesliga and world cup games in 4K at 60fps.

fenwick67 9y ago

60FPS movies do this to me - everything tends to look like a stage play.

marzell 9y ago
Actual movies in 60fps, or movies in ~24fps on a TV that is using interpolation to produce 60fps output? The interpolated/faked experience is often known as Soap Opera Effect [1]. I really dislike interpolated video, but really do enjoy 'real' 60fps video. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation#Soap_opera_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation#Soap_oper...
- fenwick67 9y ago
  I mean 60fps movies - like when I went to see The Hobbit in theatres. I like it too, don't get me wrong, but it takes some getting used to and gives a different feeling. Like a painting versus a photograph. But yes motion interpolation is awful.
- khedoros1 9y ago
  The 48fps version of the Hobbit was jarring for a number of reasons. I'd be interested in seeing a movie with more real actors and sets at a high frame rate, just to have a better point of comparison.

noam87 9y ago

I've noticed it too with a friend's TV. Some shows / movies become unwatchable because it's so distracting. -- I think part of it is that many of the artificialities of the screen become too obvious: the lighting, the makeup, the fact that many elements on a set a plastic / CG, oddities in perspective, etc... all of these elements are "fuzzed up" by a lower resolution and FPS, forcing your brain to fill in the gaps -- ironically more convincingly. Sometimes in art, less really is more. Many modern Sci-Fi flicks fail to achieve that feeling of wonder precisely because they are shooting for too much realism in their special effects, I think. The problem is not CGI itself, but the technology does seem to make it too tempting for the filmmakers to fill in blanks that are perhaps better left up to the viewers' imagination.

DougN7 9y ago
I think you've hit on it. I feel like I'm on a movie set watching the actors when watching 4K, as opposed to getting into the story like normal (can't remember the term for that...)