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> patently false (e.g. the Islamic take-over of France) or could lead to the harm of others (e.g. hate speech) "Islam take-over of France" & "hate speech" are

> patently false (e.g. the Islamic take-over of France) or could lead to the harm of others (e.g. hate speech) "Islam take-over of France" & "hate speech" are both conceptual interpretations & difficult to claim as false or true, other than through the lens of an ideological system. Many people disagree with Sharia Law & it's relationship with non-believers; seeing it as a threat to their own culture & even to their safety. Claiming that this is a false threat is akin to telling a woman that a seedy man cat calling her is not threatening, as most men who cat-call do not physically harm women on the street. Humans have a finely tuned sense of what is threatening regardless of the reported statistics (also subject to interpretation & modeling errors); it's what has kept us alive. There's also an integrity problem with media. Many people simply do not believe what is being reported to them, depending on the source. This happens on all sides. What we are seeing is a bifurcation of reality, leading to different notions of true & false; even different interpretation of facts as the definition of "fact" is loosely used. > There needs to be protections by the law, or perhaps clever hacker technologies, to protect people from being relegated to their own cul-de-sacs This is a tough problem as it's in nature, a cultural & biological problem, subject to interpretation. Making somebody open-minded toward a worldview that is in opposition (incompatible) of one's own is not necessarily something that would be desirable; as in the case of "Stockholm Syndrome".

h0l0cube 9y ago
> "Islam take-over of France" & "hate speech" are both conceptual interpretations & difficult to claim as false or true, other than through the lens of an ideological system. Many people disagree with Sharia Law & it's relationship with non-believers; seeing it as a threat to their own culture & even to their safety. Look at the article. Watch the video. Tell me what's not false: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=xIJVoumWYtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=xIJVoumWYtQ > This is a tough problem as it's in nature, a cultural & biological problem, subject to interpretation. Making somebody open-minded toward a worldview that is in opposition (incompatible) of one's own is not necessarily something that would be desirable; as in the case of "Stockholm Syndrome". As far as I'm aware, even if you want to opt-in to non-targeted advertising, you can't do that. Simply having that option would be a simple start.
- briantakita 9y ago
  > Look at the article. Watch the video. Tell me what's not false: It's art. Parody. You may not like it, but I can guarantee to you that some of the art & parody that you like is not liked by other people. The question is, are you going to act like a fundamentalist for you belief & demand that this "sacrilege" be censored? If yes, then will things that others find offensive that you don't be censored as well? Where does it end? That aside, maybe you missing/ignoring the frequent attacks by Islamists/Migrants or large parts of Paris becoming non-French & non-Western. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 Demanding that all nations become "multi-cultural" is xenophobic against the host nations. See the definition of Colonialism... > As far as I'm aware, even if you want to opt-in to non-targeted advertising, you can't do that. Simply having that option would be a simple start. Are you talking about ads over the internet? I'm talking about life in general. You can't ignore or target certain things like who your neighbors are & if your worldviews are compatible with your neighbors. You also can't ignore the weakening of culture & families in favor of a nihilistic prevailing culture. The people are unhappy with the trend. You can opt-out of the information or pay attention...
  - h0l0cube 9y ago
    > It's art. Parody. > That aside, maybe you missing/ignoring the frequent attacks by Islamists/Migrants or large parts of Paris becoming non-French & non-Western. This video in question was being shown in the US. It's a blatant stereo-type I use, but one that has been tested time and again, but the typical U.S. citizen is naive to the rest of the world, and it would be fair to say that the average person in any western nation outside Europe has little conception of what Paris is meant to look like. My parents, who are elderly and not well-travelled would easily be convinced. Given this, it's not hard to see how people encountering this video in their Facebook feed might be confused for thinking aspects of it are real. And for those that do see it as parody, might still think it plausible that the crescent moon would be a-top the Eiffel Tower. I think this kind of distortion happens on all sides of politics, and I think it shouldn't be tolerated on any of them. > Demanding that all nations become "multi-cultural" is xenophobic against the host nations. See the definition of Colonialism... I'm not sure you understand the definition of Xenophobia. xenophobia n. dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries. (source: google search) At last check, France is predominantly caucasian of at least one French-born parent 86% (75% of both)* and French-speaking 86%#. Anyone born overseas, and whose first language is not English are clearly not even close to the majority. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#Births_by_country_of_birth_of_the_parents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#Births_... # https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_France > Are you talking about ads over the internet? I'm talking about life in general. And I'm not. But I take you're point, there's a lot of people that don't look and behave like you entering a country you love, and you're concerned by this. This wouldn't bother me, but I can share some concern in the rise of militant extremist Islam and could see how this might cause you to view all immigration as problematic. The video you linked looks like the 'multicultural' district of any city I've been too. There's people of all walks of life visible, not overwhelmingly Islamist. It's also run down, like every multicultural district which usually finds the place with the cheapest rent and access to facilities. I strongly doubt this scene represents the whole, or even a majority, of Paris, but I haven't been in some 10 years, so I couldn't know. Edit: Unfinished sentence about xenophobia

h0l0cube 9y ago

> "Islam take-over of France" & "hate speech" are both conceptual interpretations & difficult to claim as false or true, other than through the lens of an ideological system. Many people disagree with Sharia Law & it's relationship with non-believers; seeing it as a threat to their own culture & even to their safety. Look at the article. Watch the video. Tell me what's not false: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=xIJVoumWYtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=xIJVoumWYtQ > This is a tough problem as it's in nature, a cultural & biological problem, subject to interpretation. Making somebody open-minded toward a worldview that is in opposition (incompatible) of one's own is not necessarily something that would be desirable; as in the case of "Stockholm Syndrome". As far as I'm aware, even if you want to opt-in to non-targeted advertising, you can't do that. Simply having that option would be a simple start.

briantakita 9y ago
> Look at the article. Watch the video. Tell me what's not false: It's art. Parody. You may not like it, but I can guarantee to you that some of the art & parody that you like is not liked by other people. The question is, are you going to act like a fundamentalist for you belief & demand that this "sacrilege" be censored? If yes, then will things that others find offensive that you don't be censored as well? Where does it end? That aside, maybe you missing/ignoring the frequent attacks by Islamists/Migrants or large parts of Paris becoming non-French & non-Western. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 Demanding that all nations become "multi-cultural" is xenophobic against the host nations. See the definition of Colonialism... > As far as I'm aware, even if you want to opt-in to non-targeted advertising, you can't do that. Simply having that option would be a simple start. Are you talking about ads over the internet? I'm talking about life in general. You can't ignore or target certain things like who your neighbors are & if your worldviews are compatible with your neighbors. You also can't ignore the weakening of culture & families in favor of a nihilistic prevailing culture. The people are unhappy with the trend. You can opt-out of the information or pay attention...
- h0l0cube 9y ago
  > It's art. Parody. > That aside, maybe you missing/ignoring the frequent attacks by Islamists/Migrants or large parts of Paris becoming non-French & non-Western. This video in question was being shown in the US. It's a blatant stereo-type I use, but one that has been tested time and again, but the typical U.S. citizen is naive to the rest of the world, and it would be fair to say that the average person in any western nation outside Europe has little conception of what Paris is meant to look like. My parents, who are elderly and not well-travelled would easily be convinced. Given this, it's not hard to see how people encountering this video in their Facebook feed might be confused for thinking aspects of it are real. And for those that do see it as parody, might still think it plausible that the crescent moon would be a-top the Eiffel Tower. I think this kind of distortion happens on all sides of politics, and I think it shouldn't be tolerated on any of them. > Demanding that all nations become "multi-cultural" is xenophobic against the host nations. See the definition of Colonialism... I'm not sure you understand the definition of Xenophobia. xenophobia n. dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries. (source: google search) At last check, France is predominantly caucasian of at least one French-born parent 86% (75% of both)* and French-speaking 86%#. Anyone born overseas, and whose first language is not English are clearly not even close to the majority. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#Births_by_country_of_birth_of_the_parents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#Births_... # https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_France > Are you talking about ads over the internet? I'm talking about life in general. And I'm not. But I take you're point, there's a lot of people that don't look and behave like you entering a country you love, and you're concerned by this. This wouldn't bother me, but I can share some concern in the rise of militant extremist Islam and could see how this might cause you to view all immigration as problematic. The video you linked looks like the 'multicultural' district of any city I've been too. There's people of all walks of life visible, not overwhelmingly Islamist. It's also run down, like every multicultural district which usually finds the place with the cheapest rent and access to facilities. I strongly doubt this scene represents the whole, or even a majority, of Paris, but I haven't been in some 10 years, so I couldn't know. Edit: Unfinished sentence about xenophobia