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Linux on the GPD Pocket 7

52 points by wolframio 9y ago

jabot 9y ago
I thought about buying this, but was put off by the tiny keyboard. Also, I already have a perfectly working dell xps 13 with linux, so this would really be more of a luxury item.
- mmjaa 9y ago
  The keyboard is .. okay .. it does take some getting used to, and you will be cursing at it for at least a week, but if you get real work done on it you'll get over this issue after a bit of usage. Its really quite viable.
  - stuaxo 9y ago
    Not sure why DEL is huge and backspace half size. And the grouped keys is a little hard to get used to. If they licensed the tech for Psions fold out keyboard for the next version I would probably have to upgrade.
    - mmjaa 9y ago
      I have no problems remapping DEL/Backspace (like all keys in Linux - easily remapped) but what really keeps tripping me up is the CAPSLOCK/A situation .. I hope they fix that on the next release. Over on /r/gpdpocket there is a thread discussing alternative layouts of the keyboard - so its quite possible that this will be community-optimised for the next release.
mschuster91 9y ago
Looks nice - but can it play Youtube without having to close everything else on the system? I've been badly burned by "netbooks" powered by Atom CPUs... nice battery life but forget opening Facebook or Youtube, and the ultra low screen resolution doesn't help either when web sites are designed for FullHD+ monitors.
- morganvachon 9y ago
  > "Looks nice - but can it play Youtube without having to close everything else on the system? I've been badly burned by "netbooks" powered by Atom CPUs... nice battery life but forget opening Facebook or Youtube" You should have no issues, the Atom used in these is not your 2010 PIII based Atom, it's a modern part that can handle the modern Web. > "and the ultra low screen resolution doesn't help either when web sites are designed for FullHD+ monitors." If 1920x1200 is "ultra low screen resolution" then what do you consider high res? The GPD has higher resolution than my 27" 1080p display, and I have to turn up magnification on that just to be able to read comfortably on most sites.
  - mschuster91 9y ago
    > You should have no issues, the Atom used in these is not your 2010 PIII based Atom, it's a modern part that can handle the modern Web. Pentium 3? Ew. I thought the Atoms were descendants of the Core2 family. > If 1920x1200 is "ultra low screen resolution" then what do you consider high res? You're right - I had overlooked this in the specs and based my judgment on the "screenshot" a bit below...
    - zelos 9y ago
      The Atoms are a completely separate architecture, I don't think they're really related to the main Core etc. Intel CPUs.
    - agumonkey 9y ago
      first atoms were pentium arch on modern semiconductor tech, that's how they achieved low TDP.
  - opencl 9y ago
    The early Atoms weren't P3 based, they were an original low-power design and actually quite a bit slower than the P3 at similar clockspeeds. Though a lot of the unpleasantness of using those machines was more from the extremely anemic GPU which has also improved considerably since then. Here's a benchmark comparison between the Atom used in the EeePC 901 (N270 @ 1.6Ghz), the GPD Pocket (x7-Z8750 @ 1.6Ghz), and a 1.1Ghz P3: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2968&cmp[]=1381&cmp[]=614 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2968&cmp[]=13... The P3 is slightly faster than the old Atom in spite of the lower clock, and the new one is over 2x as fast single threaded and over 7x as fast multithreaded.
jankotek 9y ago
Finally decent replacement for Psion 5 MX. It only took 20 years :-D
- maxxxxx 9y ago
  I still miss mine. It was great little machine until the display broke.
- dcminter 9y ago
  This might be more to your taste: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-...
  - stuaxo 9y ago
    Hopefully that will work out, but it is by the people who did the Spectrum Vega handheld, which has been a debacle. With any luck the people doing that project didn't syphon the money out, but it's seeming unlikely at this time.
  - MrMember 9y ago
    I've been watching progress on the Gemini for a while, I hope they deliver close to what they promised. A full Linux computer in that form factor with a SIM slot that can also dual boot Android is like my dream device.
TomasD 9y ago
A windows key?
- rbanffy 9y ago
  It's sold with Windows. Even my last Dell that came with Linux had a Windows key.
- jabot 9y ago
  You can buy a tux sticker and put it on the windows key. There are some companies that sell them, e.g. getdigital: https://www.getdigital.eu/Key-Sticker-Tux.html https://www.getdigital.eu/Key-Sticker-Tux.html
otabdeveloper1 9y ago
Neat idea, except that it doesn't actually run Linux and most likely never will.
- ekianjo 9y ago
  What do you mean? There are official Ubuntu images for the device.
  - KGIII 9y ago
    The article seems to indicate that it doesn't have official images but a hacked together version and a future version will be released soon.
    - ekianjo 9y ago
      No, it's not true. There are official images released since a month ago or so. The diffs are even available on github. Proof: http://www.gpd.hk/news.asp?id=1519&selectclassid=002002 http://www.gpd.hk/news.asp?id=1519&selectclassid=002002 Don't take everything for granted. It's not because someone writes about something that they have researched the subject.
      - mmjaa 9y ago
        Plus, the 'hacked together' version is really just normal Ubuntu with a kernel configuration tweaked specifically for the GPD Pocket, and .. it RUNS GREAT! So, don't worry Linux newbies, this really is a wonderful little pocket Linux workstation ..
        otabdeveloper1 9y ago
        > Plus, the 'hacked together' version is really just normal Ubuntu with a kernel configuration tweaked specifically for the GPD Pocket No. It's an unsupported code dump of patched kernel code: https://github.com/253647445/Pocket-Ubuntu-kernel https://github.com/253647445/Pocket-Ubuntu-kernel Needless to say, nobody is every going to merge or ever update this.
cujic9 9y ago
I've been looking for something like this for a while. The Asus C101 Chromebook with GnuRoot Debian for a chrooted Linux has done a satisfactory job. Small, light, reasonable keyboard, and flips into a tablet.
_Codemonkeyism 9y ago
Reminds me of my Toshiba Libretto.
pjc50 9y ago
This thing looks adorable. It has the Apple-style metal case rather than the more common plastic, and the ad copy at https://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_613003.html?lkid=11226317 https://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_613003.html?lkid=1122... is basically "what if macbook, but in handbag"
- addicted 9y ago
  “A Linux engineer drinks coffee while opening Vim to program scripts with Pocket. Isn’t it all fashionable people’s dream?”
- mmjaa 9y ago
  I've been waiting for a Unibody-style Linux workstation since .. well, since the tiBook. And now that there is a viable contender for this space, I'm packing up my MacBook and getting ready to retire it: Linux is finally available on decent hardware. (That said, I really look forward to the GPD Pocket II, if and when its available .. there are definite improvements that can be made, such as the keyboard layout..)
dharma1 9y ago
Pixel C, with a keyboard cover, on paper would be a good device for Linux, it has a Tegra X1 which is a pretty decent SoC with a great GPU. You can even run some basic Tensorflow models on that GPU, it's the same as Jetson TX1. Nvidia has Linux for Tegra, but not sure if the final hardware enablement was ever done for Pixel C.
cup-of-tea 9y ago
So there isn't actually a Linux version available, and if it does become available it will be more expensive? Why?
- mmjaa 9y ago
  Its a hassle-free operation to install Linux from the provided .iso's, or use the community-provided images, so really .. there is no hassle, as you perceive it. Linux runs great on it and as of 3 days ago the remaining issues (Wifi/Bluetooth) were resolved. I love my GPD Pocket!
- wolframio 9y ago
  Rumor is that Windows 10 installations on mobile devices are highly subsidized by Microsoft, which is why WIntel tablets are cheaper compared to same specs android equivalents.
  - cup-of-tea 9y ago
    How is this not against some anti-competitive laws?
  - MrMember 9y ago
    This is from a few years ago but if it still holds true Windows is free on smaller devices. https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/2/5574146/microsoft-making-windows-free-on-devices-with-screens-under-nine https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/2/5574146/microsoft-making-w...
_joel 9y ago
Am I the only one in thinking £469 (at least in UK) is expensive for what it is?
- detaro 9y ago
  Kind of, but if that's the form factor you want there isn't much in the way of alternatives as far as I know. (small tablet + external keyboard + one of those projects to run GNU/Linux userland on Android?) And the linked sale price is 433 € with shipping to Germany from a location inside the EU (so no import duty), that's a bit better than your quoted price. (EDIT: adjusted price, didn't update properly)
  - bryanlarsen 9y ago
    I just finished fixing a customer site using my phone, an external keyboard and ConnectBot from the Galapagos. I still use my stowaway bluetooth keyboard from my palm pilot days. It's still the best external keyboard for its size, AFAICT.
  - neilalexander 9y ago
    The Gemini PDA is another such alternative in development: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-...
- dspillett 9y ago
  Probably, but there is probably a market for it still. Other options could be something like https://uk.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_372953.html?wid=25 https://uk.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_372953.html?wid=25 (much cheaper) with a bluetooth keyboard, I've seen people report success with Linux on certain ~7" tables (again much cheaper, just add bt keyboard and case). If connectivity isn't an issue you don't even need Linux on the device directly: I've RDPd to Windows and SSHed to Linux from my phone before now. I've always got a machine on (or wakeable via WoL) somewhere that I can use. You can do the same from a tablet tethered to a phone. There are X servers for Android too, though I've not tried any of them yet (if I did it would only be to play, in reality if I need anything like that I'm breaking out the laptop or waiting until I have access to something else useful).
ajarmst 9y ago
I have difficulty conceiving of anything that lacks a full-size keyboard as a 'hacker PC'.
- Zibri 9y ago
  totally agreed
sschueller 9y ago
I was all in on this until I saw the location of some of the keys. Especially under Linux use, I need the tab in a good position
- rootw0rm 9y ago
  i'm with you. great screen, horrible keyboard.
jhongy 9y ago
Baytrail tablets aren't so bad with Linux now either (they were a right pain when released). My t100ta runs Arch perfectly with everything working (well) other than the camera. It was cheap, the keyboard dock is decent, and it feels like a great natural successor to the original eeePC.
jbeard4 9y ago
I backed this project on Indiegogo, and the Windows 10 unit that I received does not implement sleep correctly, so the battery drains excessively while the unit is suspended with the lid closed. After about a day suspended, the battery is fully drained. This limits its usefulness as a mobile unit, as I have to power off the unit between uses. I emailed GPD support, but did not receive a response. They are a very small company. Other than that, it's been a pretty nice device for development. One of the nice features is that it's so small, I don't have to stow it during airplane take-off and landing, and can continue programming throughout. The keyboard requires some getting used to, though.
- mmjaa 9y ago
  I had the same issue with mine regarding suspend-mode, but since moving to Linux haven't had an issue with it at all. Great little machine, and wonderful to have a full-blown Linux workstation in this form factor.
  - jbeard4 9y ago
    This is good to know. I haven't tried the Ubuntu respin, but will plan to do so soon.
- 0xcde4c3db 9y ago
  > the Windows 10 unit that I received does not implement sleep correctly, so the battery drains excessively while the unit is suspended with the lid closed. After about a day suspended, the battery is fully drained I saw similar behavior on a Windows 10 tablet recently. I suspect there's some issue between recent Windows 10 builds and the reference firmware for Cherry Trail.
- wolframio 9y ago
  As a workaround you can disable sleep mode and make sure GPD is fully powered off when not using it (white led off).
nnq 9y ago
Why would anyone want a device of such inconvenient size for a human being? This size seems optimized for a falcon (superhuman eyesight) with huge pockets. I thought these were extinct. You'd want it either <=4.5" so it fits comfy in a normal person's pocket (5" phones are bearable but incredibly annoying), or >=10" to be able to actually see stuff on the screen (ever tried one of those horrible 6-8" tablets?). Heck, even most women's purses can accommodate a 13" device easily...
- staz 9y ago
  > (ever tried one of those horrible 6-8" tablets?). Yep and I loved my nexus 7 and Shield K1, so.... edit: not to mention that most Kindle are at that size too...
digi_owl 9y ago
A decade ago i would have moved mountains to get hold of one of these, i have owned a eeepc 901, a Nokia 770, and a N800. But these days my first though goes to having to deal with the bikeshedding and musical chairs that is modern day Linux userspace, and can't help thinking it will be a big time sink for little gain...

52 points by wolframio 9y ago

I thought about buying this, but was put off by the tiny keyboard. Also, I already have a perfectly working dell xps 13 with linux, so this would really be more of a luxury item.

mmjaa 9y ago
The keyboard is .. okay .. it does take some getting used to, and you will be cursing at it for at least a week, but if you get real work done on it you'll get over this issue after a bit of usage. Its really quite viable.
- stuaxo 9y ago
  Not sure why DEL is huge and backspace half size. And the grouped keys is a little hard to get used to. If they licensed the tech for Psions fold out keyboard for the next version I would probably have to upgrade.
  - mmjaa 9y ago
    I have no problems remapping DEL/Backspace (like all keys in Linux - easily remapped) but what really keeps tripping me up is the CAPSLOCK/A situation .. I hope they fix that on the next release. Over on /r/gpdpocket there is a thread discussing alternative layouts of the keyboard - so its quite possible that this will be community-optimised for the next release.

mschuster91 9y ago

Looks nice - but can it play Youtube without having to close everything else on the system? I've been badly burned by "netbooks" powered by Atom CPUs... nice battery life but forget opening Facebook or Youtube, and the ultra low screen resolution doesn't help either when web sites are designed for FullHD+ monitors.

morganvachon 9y ago
> "Looks nice - but can it play Youtube without having to close everything else on the system? I've been badly burned by "netbooks" powered by Atom CPUs... nice battery life but forget opening Facebook or Youtube" You should have no issues, the Atom used in these is not your 2010 PIII based Atom, it's a modern part that can handle the modern Web. > "and the ultra low screen resolution doesn't help either when web sites are designed for FullHD+ monitors." If 1920x1200 is "ultra low screen resolution" then what do you consider high res? The GPD has higher resolution than my 27" 1080p display, and I have to turn up magnification on that just to be able to read comfortably on most sites.
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > You should have no issues, the Atom used in these is not your 2010 PIII based Atom, it's a modern part that can handle the modern Web. Pentium 3? Ew. I thought the Atoms were descendants of the Core2 family. > If 1920x1200 is "ultra low screen resolution" then what do you consider high res? You're right - I had overlooked this in the specs and based my judgment on the "screenshot" a bit below...
  - zelos 9y ago
    The Atoms are a completely separate architecture, I don't think they're really related to the main Core etc. Intel CPUs.
  - agumonkey 9y ago
    first atoms were pentium arch on modern semiconductor tech, that's how they achieved low TDP.
- opencl 9y ago
  The early Atoms weren't P3 based, they were an original low-power design and actually quite a bit slower than the P3 at similar clockspeeds. Though a lot of the unpleasantness of using those machines was more from the extremely anemic GPU which has also improved considerably since then. Here's a benchmark comparison between the Atom used in the EeePC 901 (N270 @ 1.6Ghz), the GPD Pocket (x7-Z8750 @ 1.6Ghz), and a 1.1Ghz P3: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2968&cmp[]=1381&cmp[]=614 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2968&cmp[]=13... The P3 is slightly faster than the old Atom in spite of the lower clock, and the new one is over 2x as fast single threaded and over 7x as fast multithreaded.

jankotek 9y ago

Finally decent replacement for Psion 5 MX. It only took 20 years :-D

maxxxxx 9y ago
I still miss mine. It was great little machine until the display broke.
dcminter 9y ago
This might be more to your taste: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-...
- stuaxo 9y ago
  Hopefully that will work out, but it is by the people who did the Spectrum Vega handheld, which has been a debacle. With any luck the people doing that project didn't syphon the money out, but it's seeming unlikely at this time.
- MrMember 9y ago
  I've been watching progress on the Gemini for a while, I hope they deliver close to what they promised. A full Linux computer in that form factor with a SIM slot that can also dual boot Android is like my dream device.

TomasD 9y ago

A windows key?

rbanffy 9y ago
It's sold with Windows. Even my last Dell that came with Linux had a Windows key.
jabot 9y ago
You can buy a tux sticker and put it on the windows key. There are some companies that sell them, e.g. getdigital: https://www.getdigital.eu/Key-Sticker-Tux.html https://www.getdigital.eu/Key-Sticker-Tux.html

otabdeveloper1 9y ago

Neat idea, except that it doesn't actually run Linux and most likely never will.

ekianjo 9y ago
What do you mean? There are official Ubuntu images for the device.
- KGIII 9y ago
  The article seems to indicate that it doesn't have official images but a hacked together version and a future version will be released soon.
  - ekianjo 9y ago
    No, it's not true. There are official images released since a month ago or so. The diffs are even available on github. Proof: http://www.gpd.hk/news.asp?id=1519&selectclassid=002002 http://www.gpd.hk/news.asp?id=1519&selectclassid=002002 Don't take everything for granted. It's not because someone writes about something that they have researched the subject.
    - mmjaa 9y ago
      Plus, the 'hacked together' version is really just normal Ubuntu with a kernel configuration tweaked specifically for the GPD Pocket, and .. it RUNS GREAT! So, don't worry Linux newbies, this really is a wonderful little pocket Linux workstation ..
      - otabdeveloper1 9y ago
        > Plus, the 'hacked together' version is really just normal Ubuntu with a kernel configuration tweaked specifically for the GPD Pocket No. It's an unsupported code dump of patched kernel code: https://github.com/253647445/Pocket-Ubuntu-kernel https://github.com/253647445/Pocket-Ubuntu-kernel Needless to say, nobody is every going to merge or ever update this.

cujic9 9y ago

I've been looking for something like this for a while. The Asus C101 Chromebook with GnuRoot Debian for a chrooted Linux has done a satisfactory job. Small, light, reasonable keyboard, and flips into a tablet.

_Codemonkeyism 9y ago

Reminds me of my Toshiba Libretto.

pjc50 9y ago

This thing looks adorable. It has the Apple-style metal case rather than the more common plastic, and the ad copy at https://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_613003.html?lkid=11226317 https://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_613003.html?lkid=1122... is basically "what if macbook, but in handbag"

addicted 9y ago
“A Linux engineer drinks coffee while opening Vim to program scripts with Pocket. Isn’t it all fashionable people’s dream?”
mmjaa 9y ago
I've been waiting for a Unibody-style Linux workstation since .. well, since the tiBook. And now that there is a viable contender for this space, I'm packing up my MacBook and getting ready to retire it: Linux is finally available on decent hardware. (That said, I really look forward to the GPD Pocket II, if and when its available .. there are definite improvements that can be made, such as the keyboard layout..)

dharma1 9y ago

Pixel C, with a keyboard cover, on paper would be a good device for Linux, it has a Tegra X1 which is a pretty decent SoC with a great GPU. You can even run some basic Tensorflow models on that GPU, it's the same as Jetson TX1. Nvidia has Linux for Tegra, but not sure if the final hardware enablement was ever done for Pixel C.

cup-of-tea 9y ago

So there isn't actually a Linux version available, and if it does become available it will be more expensive? Why?

mmjaa 9y ago
Its a hassle-free operation to install Linux from the provided .iso's, or use the community-provided images, so really .. there is no hassle, as you perceive it. Linux runs great on it and as of 3 days ago the remaining issues (Wifi/Bluetooth) were resolved. I love my GPD Pocket!
wolframio 9y ago
Rumor is that Windows 10 installations on mobile devices are highly subsidized by Microsoft, which is why WIntel tablets are cheaper compared to same specs android equivalents.
- cup-of-tea 9y ago
  How is this not against some anti-competitive laws?
- MrMember 9y ago
  This is from a few years ago but if it still holds true Windows is free on smaller devices. https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/2/5574146/microsoft-making-windows-free-on-devices-with-screens-under-nine https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/2/5574146/microsoft-making-w...

_joel 9y ago

Am I the only one in thinking £469 (at least in UK) is expensive for what it is?

detaro 9y ago
Kind of, but if that's the form factor you want there isn't much in the way of alternatives as far as I know. (small tablet + external keyboard + one of those projects to run GNU/Linux userland on Android?) And the linked sale price is 433 € with shipping to Germany from a location inside the EU (so no import duty), that's a bit better than your quoted price. (EDIT: adjusted price, didn't update properly)
- bryanlarsen 9y ago
  I just finished fixing a customer site using my phone, an external keyboard and ConnectBot from the Galapagos. I still use my stowaway bluetooth keyboard from my palm pilot days. It's still the best external keyboard for its size, AFAICT.
- neilalexander 9y ago
  The Gemini PDA is another such alternative in development: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-...
dspillett 9y ago
Probably, but there is probably a market for it still. Other options could be something like https://uk.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_372953.html?wid=25 https://uk.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_372953.html?wid=25 (much cheaper) with a bluetooth keyboard, I've seen people report success with Linux on certain ~7" tables (again much cheaper, just add bt keyboard and case). If connectivity isn't an issue you don't even need Linux on the device directly: I've RDPd to Windows and SSHed to Linux from my phone before now. I've always got a machine on (or wakeable via WoL) somewhere that I can use. You can do the same from a tablet tethered to a phone. There are X servers for Android too, though I've not tried any of them yet (if I did it would only be to play, in reality if I need anything like that I'm breaking out the laptop or waiting until I have access to something else useful).

ajarmst 9y ago

I have difficulty conceiving of anything that lacks a full-size keyboard as a 'hacker PC'.

Zibri 9y ago
totally agreed

sschueller 9y ago

I was all in on this until I saw the location of some of the keys. Especially under Linux use, I need the tab in a good position

rootw0rm 9y ago
i'm with you. great screen, horrible keyboard.

jhongy 9y ago

Baytrail tablets aren't so bad with Linux now either (they were a right pain when released). My t100ta runs Arch perfectly with everything working (well) other than the camera. It was cheap, the keyboard dock is decent, and it feels like a great natural successor to the original eeePC.

jbeard4 9y ago

I backed this project on Indiegogo, and the Windows 10 unit that I received does not implement sleep correctly, so the battery drains excessively while the unit is suspended with the lid closed. After about a day suspended, the battery is fully drained. This limits its usefulness as a mobile unit, as I have to power off the unit between uses. I emailed GPD support, but did not receive a response. They are a very small company. Other than that, it's been a pretty nice device for development. One of the nice features is that it's so small, I don't have to stow it during airplane take-off and landing, and can continue programming throughout. The keyboard requires some getting used to, though.

mmjaa 9y ago
I had the same issue with mine regarding suspend-mode, but since moving to Linux haven't had an issue with it at all. Great little machine, and wonderful to have a full-blown Linux workstation in this form factor.
- jbeard4 9y ago
  This is good to know. I haven't tried the Ubuntu respin, but will plan to do so soon.
0xcde4c3db 9y ago
> the Windows 10 unit that I received does not implement sleep correctly, so the battery drains excessively while the unit is suspended with the lid closed. After about a day suspended, the battery is fully drained I saw similar behavior on a Windows 10 tablet recently. I suspect there's some issue between recent Windows 10 builds and the reference firmware for Cherry Trail.
wolframio 9y ago
As a workaround you can disable sleep mode and make sure GPD is fully powered off when not using it (white led off).

nnq 9y ago

Why would anyone want a device of such inconvenient size for a human being? This size seems optimized for a falcon (superhuman eyesight) with huge pockets. I thought these were extinct. You'd want it either <=4.5" so it fits comfy in a normal person's pocket (5" phones are bearable but incredibly annoying), or >=10" to be able to actually see stuff on the screen (ever tried one of those horrible 6-8" tablets?). Heck, even most women's purses can accommodate a 13" device easily...

staz 9y ago
> (ever tried one of those horrible 6-8" tablets?). Yep and I loved my nexus 7 and Shield K1, so.... edit: not to mention that most Kindle are at that size too...

digi_owl 9y ago

A decade ago i would have moved mountains to get hold of one of these, i have owned a eeepc 901, a Nokia 770, and a N800. But these days my first though goes to having to deal with the bikeshedding and musical chairs that is modern day Linux userspace, and can't help thinking it will be a big time sink for little gain...