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I am not sure I want hard components located inside a helmet. I was hit on my motorcycle, head on, and Superman-ed into the car that had crossed into my lane.

by KGIII 9y ago

I am not sure I want hard components located inside a helmet. I was hit on my motorcycle, head on, and Superman-ed into the car that had crossed into my lane. The helmet saved my life, quite probably. It was so effective that Buell wanted it back to study it. Other than smashing my hands and one ulna, I was just a bit battered and bruised but the helmet was a wreck. The bike was a complete loss. There were pics online, they probably still are. Anyhow, unless you're going to end up with a heavy over-sized monstrosity, the electronics are going to take up space in the padding. I may be biased, but I'm kind of partial to that padding. By the way, get certified helmets. Inspect your helmet for damage on a regular basis. Replace damaged parts. Replace any helmet that has been involved in an accident involving any force to the helmet. Of all those, a certified helmet seems to be the more pressing issue. I see many people wearing novelty helmets that are just as likely to cause additional injury as they are to prevent injury. Ride safe.

flipp3r 9y ago
From the sample videos I'm not sure if it's intended to be used on a bike. It seems to be popping up almost full screen windows, which looks insanely dangerous to me if on a bike. The video on their page is someone presumably using it / a concept of it, while walking.
- KGIII 9y ago
  I didn't watch the video. Like the sibling post, I can't imagine too many people meandering around with a helmet on, unless the task requires a helmet. Even those tasks don't always get people wearing a helmet. The picture looks like a motorcycle helmet and, if it's not, that may be even worse. People will think it is a protective helmet and wear it as such. This is a problem already, as they sell novelty helmets that don't meet DOT specs. DOT spec'ed helmets have a sticker on the back. I absolutely will not ride without one. I also insist on wearing one while snowmobiling, unless I'm just moving it into the garage or something.
  - philipov 9y ago
    I could see the helmet for regular use, but only if followed up with billowing black robes and a cloak. Nothing less will suffice for the mankind's absolute creation. It will of course need to include climate control systems[0] for the summer, and a voice modulator[1] would be nice too. [0]: https://youtu.be/wxL8bVJhXCM?t=52s https://youtu.be/wxL8bVJhXCM?t=52s [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQeP6GWU0e4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQeP6GWU0e4
    - KGIII 9y ago
      I have heated helmets and heated snowmobile suits. They are pretty much as awesome as you might imagine.
  - camiller 9y ago
    I didn't watch the vid and only read the beginning of the page, part of their use case was that air pollution would be so bad you would need to filter what you breath so the helmet is partly environmental control. I don't think it is going to be a big seller, but uh... good luck to them?
- dschep 9y ago
  > I'm not sure if it's intended to be used on a bike You're correct: https://github.com/DragonComputer/dragon.computer/issues/1 https://github.com/DragonComputer/dragon.computer/issues/1
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
> Anyhow, unless you're going to end up with a heavy over-sized monstrosity, the electronics are going to take up space in the padding. I may be biased, but I'm kind of partial to that padding. I feel like you could add lightweight electronics to the outside of the padding (and then reshape the shell to cover it elegantly rather than just a protruding box) without adding too much weight or bulk. I'm really confused as to what the target audience is here, though. It looks like a motorcycle helmet, but the text kinda sounds like they want this to be the next stage of wearable computing, like powered-up smart glasses. I'm hard-pressed to imagine even the biggest tech nerds walking around the office wearing a full helmet. Also the menu in the upper right implies that a full suit of armor with modular components is being planned, although all the buttons just go to the helmet page. I can't imagine what that's about.
jcun4128 9y ago
Maybe the big cluster can be attached to motorcycle and then wirelessly does the computing beams to motorcycle display overlay.
- KGIII 9y ago
  Hmm... That's not a horrible idea but would it be proprietary and locked to a single OEM? There would be my big concern. My last bike was a BMW, my new one a Ducati. Helmets from the previous might not work with the new one. I currently own only one bike but I kind of want something big, fat, and noisy. Would it work with that, or would I need to add to my already absurd collection of helmets? I love the idea but the practicality and safety would be my major concerns. If this were a site where we posted pics, I'd probably go get you a picture. I already have about 20 helmets (see above reply to sibling comment), which isn't all that abnormal in my geographic location. Hell, if you count bicycle helmets, I have even more. No, no I didn't expect this to be an outcome of moving here.
  - jcun4128 9y ago
    Yeah I don't know much about helmets/motrcycles in general. If they had such a thing as a thin flexible display, that you could just wrap over or in your visor and it was able to receive video. Where does the camera go? Not sure. Holograms, just have a dashboard thing show a floating display, but why your physical speedometer is right there already.
reustle 9y ago
That helmet isnt intended for motorcycles, but this one is: https://www.ridenuviz.com https://www.ridenuviz.com
- KGIII 9y ago
  I have only gone so far as active communication, heat, and music. I have a few ATVs, multiple snowmobiles, and a new motorcycle. I also have a bunch of guests which means I have an absurd number of helmets that I never actually expected to own. It means I'm interested in more flexible tech. When a crash happens, and it will, I'd not like extra stuff poking into me. Smaller and more flexible components are something I sometimes look into but only the miniaturization seems to be making it to market. I'd absolutely love something like an in-helmet GPS system, display of vehicle functions, and could even see some augmented reality in this space. It is slow coming but this helmet, in your link, looks promising. I'll do some more reading. I'd not seen that one before. Thanks! I will have to see its ratings, reviews, and certifictions. Ever since my accident, I've been much more cautious about helmet purchases. I was only going about 45 MPH when I was hit. The car driver was passing right after a blind corner and didn't see me. To put things in perspective, it is quite common to take a snowmobile into the village here. The grocery store has snowmobile parking. There's an extensive trail system that usually opens up for ATVs when the snow clears. So, I have quite a few instances where a helmet is something I consider essential.
  - djrogers 9y ago
    > The grocery store has snowmobile parking. There's an extensive trail system that usually opens up for ATVs when the snow clears. OMG - where do you live? In the words of Liz Lemmon, I want to go to there.
    - KGIII 9y ago
      NW Maine, outside of Rangeley. I'm about equidistant from the Canadian border and Mt. Washington, which is in NH. I'm perched on the side of a mountain, in an unincorporated township, about 25 miles from the village center in Rangeley. You'd not be the first person from the Internet to come visit me. It's too addictive/beautiful for me to get into additional details. Doing so tends to derail threads. If you are really curious, uninvolved@outlook.com is a fine way to reach me.
nf05papsjfVbc 9y ago
Often, it's hard to recall exactly how you landed and rolled etc. in an accident because it happens so fast. So, if you've had a fall, just replace the helmet. You may think it never hit the ground but it's not worth the risk it entails.
- KGIII 9y ago
  That is definitely a safer option, though I was thinking more low speed mishaps where you can be reasonably certain that there was no head strike and where there are no new marks on the helmet. I forget the company but one of them was going to do something like the gridiron football helmets. They were going to have a g-force indicator in them to indicate damage and concussion potential. I'm not sure what became of it.
  - ams6110 9y ago
    Those helmets are made. Unfortunately while a helmet can protect your skull from breaking it doesn't do a lot to prevent concussion. Concussion results from the brain being whiplashed around inside the skull. Helmets won't stop that. The shock indicators can possibly help determine if a hit was hard enough to suspect a concussion, but diagnosis of a concussion is based on symptoms.

by KGIII 9y ago

flipp3r 9y ago

From the sample videos I'm not sure if it's intended to be used on a bike. It seems to be popping up almost full screen windows, which looks insanely dangerous to me if on a bike. The video on their page is someone presumably using it / a concept of it, while walking.

KGIII 9y ago
I didn't watch the video. Like the sibling post, I can't imagine too many people meandering around with a helmet on, unless the task requires a helmet. Even those tasks don't always get people wearing a helmet. The picture looks like a motorcycle helmet and, if it's not, that may be even worse. People will think it is a protective helmet and wear it as such. This is a problem already, as they sell novelty helmets that don't meet DOT specs. DOT spec'ed helmets have a sticker on the back. I absolutely will not ride without one. I also insist on wearing one while snowmobiling, unless I'm just moving it into the garage or something.
- philipov 9y ago
  I could see the helmet for regular use, but only if followed up with billowing black robes and a cloak. Nothing less will suffice for the mankind's absolute creation. It will of course need to include climate control systems[0] for the summer, and a voice modulator[1] would be nice too. [0]: https://youtu.be/wxL8bVJhXCM?t=52s https://youtu.be/wxL8bVJhXCM?t=52s [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQeP6GWU0e4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQeP6GWU0e4
  - KGIII 9y ago
    I have heated helmets and heated snowmobile suits. They are pretty much as awesome as you might imagine.
- camiller 9y ago
  I didn't watch the vid and only read the beginning of the page, part of their use case was that air pollution would be so bad you would need to filter what you breath so the helmet is partly environmental control. I don't think it is going to be a big seller, but uh... good luck to them?
dschep 9y ago
> I'm not sure if it's intended to be used on a bike You're correct: https://github.com/DragonComputer/dragon.computer/issues/1 https://github.com/DragonComputer/dragon.computer/issues/1

PhasmaFelis 9y ago

> Anyhow, unless you're going to end up with a heavy over-sized monstrosity, the electronics are going to take up space in the padding. I may be biased, but I'm kind of partial to that padding. I feel like you could add lightweight electronics to the outside of the padding (and then reshape the shell to cover it elegantly rather than just a protruding box) without adding too much weight or bulk. I'm really confused as to what the target audience is here, though. It looks like a motorcycle helmet, but the text kinda sounds like they want this to be the next stage of wearable computing, like powered-up smart glasses. I'm hard-pressed to imagine even the biggest tech nerds walking around the office wearing a full helmet. Also the menu in the upper right implies that a full suit of armor with modular components is being planned, although all the buttons just go to the helmet page. I can't imagine what that's about.

jcun4128 9y ago

Maybe the big cluster can be attached to motorcycle and then wirelessly does the computing beams to motorcycle display overlay.

KGIII 9y ago
Hmm... That's not a horrible idea but would it be proprietary and locked to a single OEM? There would be my big concern. My last bike was a BMW, my new one a Ducati. Helmets from the previous might not work with the new one. I currently own only one bike but I kind of want something big, fat, and noisy. Would it work with that, or would I need to add to my already absurd collection of helmets? I love the idea but the practicality and safety would be my major concerns. If this were a site where we posted pics, I'd probably go get you a picture. I already have about 20 helmets (see above reply to sibling comment), which isn't all that abnormal in my geographic location. Hell, if you count bicycle helmets, I have even more. No, no I didn't expect this to be an outcome of moving here.
- jcun4128 9y ago
  Yeah I don't know much about helmets/motrcycles in general. If they had such a thing as a thin flexible display, that you could just wrap over or in your visor and it was able to receive video. Where does the camera go? Not sure. Holograms, just have a dashboard thing show a floating display, but why your physical speedometer is right there already.

reustle 9y ago

That helmet isnt intended for motorcycles, but this one is: https://www.ridenuviz.com https://www.ridenuviz.com

KGIII 9y ago
I have only gone so far as active communication, heat, and music. I have a few ATVs, multiple snowmobiles, and a new motorcycle. I also have a bunch of guests which means I have an absurd number of helmets that I never actually expected to own. It means I'm interested in more flexible tech. When a crash happens, and it will, I'd not like extra stuff poking into me. Smaller and more flexible components are something I sometimes look into but only the miniaturization seems to be making it to market. I'd absolutely love something like an in-helmet GPS system, display of vehicle functions, and could even see some augmented reality in this space. It is slow coming but this helmet, in your link, looks promising. I'll do some more reading. I'd not seen that one before. Thanks! I will have to see its ratings, reviews, and certifictions. Ever since my accident, I've been much more cautious about helmet purchases. I was only going about 45 MPH when I was hit. The car driver was passing right after a blind corner and didn't see me. To put things in perspective, it is quite common to take a snowmobile into the village here. The grocery store has snowmobile parking. There's an extensive trail system that usually opens up for ATVs when the snow clears. So, I have quite a few instances where a helmet is something I consider essential.
- djrogers 9y ago
  > The grocery store has snowmobile parking. There's an extensive trail system that usually opens up for ATVs when the snow clears. OMG - where do you live? In the words of Liz Lemmon, I want to go to there.
  - KGIII 9y ago
    NW Maine, outside of Rangeley. I'm about equidistant from the Canadian border and Mt. Washington, which is in NH. I'm perched on the side of a mountain, in an unincorporated township, about 25 miles from the village center in Rangeley. You'd not be the first person from the Internet to come visit me. It's too addictive/beautiful for me to get into additional details. Doing so tends to derail threads. If you are really curious, uninvolved@outlook.com is a fine way to reach me.

nf05papsjfVbc 9y ago

Often, it's hard to recall exactly how you landed and rolled etc. in an accident because it happens so fast. So, if you've had a fall, just replace the helmet. You may think it never hit the ground but it's not worth the risk it entails.

KGIII 9y ago
That is definitely a safer option, though I was thinking more low speed mishaps where you can be reasonably certain that there was no head strike and where there are no new marks on the helmet. I forget the company but one of them was going to do something like the gridiron football helmets. They were going to have a g-force indicator in them to indicate damage and concussion potential. I'm not sure what became of it.
- ams6110 9y ago
  Those helmets are made. Unfortunately while a helmet can protect your skull from breaking it doesn't do a lot to prevent concussion. Concussion results from the brain being whiplashed around inside the skull. Helmets won't stop that. The shock indicators can possibly help determine if a hit was hard enough to suspect a concussion, but diagnosis of a concussion is based on symptoms.