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Nice ad for Gardasil

• DrScump 9y ago
  ... and not even a well-researched one. The second-generation Gardasil protected against four strains and has been out for years. Even so, there are still remaining carcinogenic HPV strains that are not addressed by vaccine.
  • 0xbear 9y ago
    Yup. My son is vaccinated with it. That said, I view it as non-mandatory, much like the flu shot. The overall risk of HPV complications is pretty darn low in men.
    • toomuchtodo 9y ago
      I'm unsure why an inexpensive vaccine that can prevent a sexually transmitted virus that eventually causes cancer would be viewed as non-mandatory.
      • 0xbear 9y ago
        Because HPV rarely causes cancer, and Gardasil targets only 4 strains and can have side effects.
        • toomuchtodo 9y ago
          Not trying to be argumentative, I just want to properly communicate the risk and why its important everyone should be getting the HPV vaccine. "High-risk HPVs cause several types of cancer. Cervical cancer: Virtually all cases of cervical cancer are caused by HPV, and just two HPV types, 16 and 18, are responsible for about 70% of all cases (7, 8). Anal cancer: About 95% of anal cancers are caused by HPV. Most of these are caused by HPV type 16." https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-fact-sheet https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/i... "About 12,820 new cases of invasive cervical cancer will be diagnosed. About 4,210 women will die from cervical cancer. (per year)" https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cervical-cancer/about/key-statistics.html https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cervical-cancer/about/key-stat...
          • 0xbear 9y ago
            Men don’t have a cervix, and my understanding is most women (the main transmission vector) are already being vaccinated.
            • toomuchtodo 9y ago
              Herd immunity. Men can transmit it, and you can't guarantee every woman is going to get the vaccine (yet).
            • dragonwriter 9y ago
              > Men don’t have a cervix Cisgender men do not, in general, but they do usually have a penis, anus, and/or throat and HPV is also implicated in penile, anal, and oropharyngeal cancer, though it is best known for its contribution to cervical cancer. https://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm https://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm
              • 0xbear 9y ago
                I prefer the term “biological” rather than “cisgender” in this particular case because we are discussing the presence or absence of particular organs, not one’s gender identity. But I see your point.
                • dragonwriter 9y ago
                  > I prefer the term “biological” rather than “cisgender” in this particular case because we are discussing the presence or absence of particular organs, not one’s gender identity. “Biological” is also somewhat imprecise as biological sex traits don't always align with each other and include a number of things besides anatomy; “anatomically stereotypical” would be more precise than either “biological” or “cisgender”.
      • freedomben 9y ago
        When you say "mandatory" do you mean, 1. "think of it as a vaccine you should definitely get" or 2. "the government should force you to allow this to be injected into your body whether you want it or not" or something else? I agree with you on the former, not sure I do on the latter.
        • toomuchtodo 9y ago
          To my knowledge, both Australia and the US have compulsory vaccination requirements for schooling (both countries) and receiving government benefits (Australia). I fully support compulsory vaccinations (see: Hepatitis A, Measles, Mumps, Etc). http://www.vaccineswork.org/vaccine-preventable-disease-outbreaks/ http://www.vaccineswork.org/vaccine-preventable-disease-outb...