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I once had a pair of police officers try to tell me that my refusal to let them search the vehicle was grounds for probable cause and would enable them to legal

by KGIII 9y ago

I once had a pair of police officers try to tell me that my refusal to let them search the vehicle was grounds for probable cause and would enable them to legally search my vehicle. I laughed and pointed out that I'm not a teen and am quite familiar with my rights. They were visibly disappointed and told me that I was kicked out of Kansas and that I'd be arrested if I ever went back to Kansas. I giggled again but left and they followed me to the interstate slipway.

alsetmusic 9y ago
Sheriffs tried the same with me, also in Kansas. Threatened to impound my vehicle to search it, threatened me with arrest, ultimately let me go about my business because I had not violated the law or given a viable appearance of doing so. It was a very clear bully technique that fell apart when I calmly asserted my rights. This certainly isn’t a localized tactic. I recall discussion of videographers printing statutes and employing them when threatened about recording police activity in public spaces. The frightening aspect (to me) is that some law enforcement officers genuinely appear to believe that they have authority that they don’t have. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/gresham_pays_85k_educates_cops.html http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/gresham... https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-portland-police-reach-settlement-filming-case https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-portland-police-reach-settlem... https://www.google.com/search?q=settlement+recording+police https://www.google.com/search?q=settlement+recording+police
- KGIII 9y ago
  The funny part was it was during one of my extended wanderlust adventures and I'd just finished spending a couple of weeks volunteering in Greenville, KS. They'd just been almost totally destroyed by a tornado and I happened to be just a little ways away. So, lacking anything better to do, I bought some work clothes and went to help move rubble. I was leaving the State and decided I'd nap for a few hours. I didn't feel like getting a hotel so I slept in the car. It turns out, I was sleeping in a factory parking lot and the people who came in to open it called the police - or so the cops said. It probably didn't help that I was in manual labor clothing, I'm not white, and I was in a new BMW. I probably looked like a drug dealer. That's still not an excuse. Not to worry, I didn't let it reflect on the nice people of Kansas. But, after I'd spent a couple of weeks just giving my time to those in need, their cops harassed me and told me that I was banned from their State. I haven't been back but that's just coincidental.

by KGIII 9y ago

alsetmusic 9y ago

Sheriffs tried the same with me, also in Kansas. Threatened to impound my vehicle to search it, threatened me with arrest, ultimately let me go about my business because I had not violated the law or given a viable appearance of doing so. It was a very clear bully technique that fell apart when I calmly asserted my rights. This certainly isn’t a localized tactic. I recall discussion of videographers printing statutes and employing them when threatened about recording police activity in public spaces. The frightening aspect (to me) is that some law enforcement officers genuinely appear to believe that they have authority that they don’t have. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/gresham_pays_85k_educates_cops.html http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/gresham... https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-portland-police-reach-settlement-filming-case https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-portland-police-reach-settlem... https://www.google.com/search?q=settlement+recording+police https://www.google.com/search?q=settlement+recording+police

KGIII 9y ago
The funny part was it was during one of my extended wanderlust adventures and I'd just finished spending a couple of weeks volunteering in Greenville, KS. They'd just been almost totally destroyed by a tornado and I happened to be just a little ways away. So, lacking anything better to do, I bought some work clothes and went to help move rubble. I was leaving the State and decided I'd nap for a few hours. I didn't feel like getting a hotel so I slept in the car. It turns out, I was sleeping in a factory parking lot and the people who came in to open it called the police - or so the cops said. It probably didn't help that I was in manual labor clothing, I'm not white, and I was in a new BMW. I probably looked like a drug dealer. That's still not an excuse. Not to worry, I didn't let it reflect on the nice people of Kansas. But, after I'd spent a couple of weeks just giving my time to those in need, their cops harassed me and told me that I was banned from their State. I haven't been back but that's just coincidental.