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Can someone recommend a good tutorial for key shifts in Melodyne? I wish I could learn how to do this for other songs. I'm also interested in chord progression

Can someone recommend a good tutorial for key shifts in Melodyne? I wish I could learn how to do this for other songs. I'm also interested in chord progressions. I wish I could tag my iTunes library with the Roman numerals for each song. But I don't know of any automatic way to do that. Read the SuspiciouslySimilarSongs list, or watch the 4 chord song by Axis of Awesome to know what I'm talking about. The pop-punk chord progression is famous, but there are other songs that sound similar. (e.g. Hall & Oates - Maneater, and Stevie Wonder - Part Time Lover, or Linkin Park - New Divide and The Offspring - Gone Away).

fenomas 9y ago
You might want to check out HookTheory - https://www.hooktheory.com/trends https://www.hooktheory.com/trends It's a big database of songs and their progressions, with a lot of other stuff (a snazzy composing app, a set of music theory ebooks which I've not read, etc).
- peterburkimsher 9y ago
  Thanks! It's good, and is correctly showing some similar songs. HookTheory doesn't use Roman Numeral analysis though. I like that language, because it's easy to compare songs that are modulated to different keys. For example, Forget December - Something Corporate (D F C1 G) and New Divide - Linkin Park (Em G D A) are both ii-IV-I-V. http://vjmanzo.com/clicheprogressions/index.php?title=Category:ii_IV_I_V http://vjmanzo.com/clicheprogressions/index.php?title=Catego... HookTheory says that Fm Ab Eb Bb in the key of Eb is also like Closing Time - Semisonic. But vjmanzo's site correctly notes that it's shifted over 2 places: Closing Time is I-V-ii-IV instead of ii-IV-I-V. I've figured out how to get the real notes out of an MP3 using Melodyne, which is how I found the notes for Forget December. But I had to search online for the key, and then look up the Roman Numerals in a table. I wish I could just throw in an MP3 and get a Roman Numeral chord progression out of the other side.
  - fenomas 9y ago
    Hey, sorry for the late reply. HookTheory most definitely uses Roman Numeral notation. In the link I posted, change the "Key" pulldown to "Rel", and then you can choose each numeral in sequence. Or, for example, to see all the songs HookTheory thinks use ii-IV-I-V, the link would be: https://www.hooktheory.com/trends#node=2.4.1.5&key=rel https://www.hooktheory.com/trends#node=2.4.1.5&key=rel > HookTheory says that Fm Ab Eb Bb in the key of Eb is also like Closing Time - Semisonic. But vjmanzo's site correctly notes that it's shifted over 2 places: Closing Time is I-V-ii-IV instead of ii-IV-I-V. I don't know what you're referring to here, but it sounds like HookTheory was just suggesting similarities. HT's actual entry for the song you're referring to is here, and has the same progression you mentioned. https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/semisonic/closing-time https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/semisonic/closing-... How this relates to your link I have no idea, it shows 404 for me.
zwily 9y ago
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fenomas 9y ago

You might want to check out HookTheory - https://www.hooktheory.com/trends https://www.hooktheory.com/trends It's a big database of songs and their progressions, with a lot of other stuff (a snazzy composing app, a set of music theory ebooks which I've not read, etc).

peterburkimsher 9y ago
Thanks! It's good, and is correctly showing some similar songs. HookTheory doesn't use Roman Numeral analysis though. I like that language, because it's easy to compare songs that are modulated to different keys. For example, Forget December - Something Corporate (D F C1 G) and New Divide - Linkin Park (Em G D A) are both ii-IV-I-V. http://vjmanzo.com/clicheprogressions/index.php?title=Category:ii_IV_I_V http://vjmanzo.com/clicheprogressions/index.php?title=Catego... HookTheory says that Fm Ab Eb Bb in the key of Eb is also like Closing Time - Semisonic. But vjmanzo's site correctly notes that it's shifted over 2 places: Closing Time is I-V-ii-IV instead of ii-IV-I-V. I've figured out how to get the real notes out of an MP3 using Melodyne, which is how I found the notes for Forget December. But I had to search online for the key, and then look up the Roman Numerals in a table. I wish I could just throw in an MP3 and get a Roman Numeral chord progression out of the other side.
- fenomas 9y ago
  Hey, sorry for the late reply. HookTheory most definitely uses Roman Numeral notation. In the link I posted, change the "Key" pulldown to "Rel", and then you can choose each numeral in sequence. Or, for example, to see all the songs HookTheory thinks use ii-IV-I-V, the link would be: https://www.hooktheory.com/trends#node=2.4.1.5&key=rel https://www.hooktheory.com/trends#node=2.4.1.5&key=rel > HookTheory says that Fm Ab Eb Bb in the key of Eb is also like Closing Time - Semisonic. But vjmanzo's site correctly notes that it's shifted over 2 places: Closing Time is I-V-ii-IV instead of ii-IV-I-V. I don't know what you're referring to here, but it sounds like HookTheory was just suggesting similarities. HT's actual entry for the song you're referring to is here, and has the same progression you mentioned. https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/semisonic/closing-time https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/semisonic/closing-... How this relates to your link I have no idea, it shows 404 for me.

zwily 9y ago

Maybe check out http://supermegaultragroovy.com/products/capo/ http://supermegaultragroovy.com/products/capo/ (Mac, iOS only)