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Stop letting the elderly and poor use E.R rooms as convenient one stop shops and it'll sort itself out.

knz 9y ago
Do you have an alternative proposal for how these people access health care services? https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm implies that the US is spending considerably more (~ double the OECD average) per capita. ER visits could certainly explain some of that.
- alexanderstears 9y ago
  https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 The crux is making it easier for consumers to get health care information, putting more choices in the hands of the patient, and creating a mechanism to encourage price sensitivity even if people don't pay for their care directly.
  - knz 9y ago
    Respectfully, I feel this link is missing the broader picture - that the US has a health care system unlike any other OECD nation. Perhaps the crux is looking at models that have been successful in other countries and adapting them to the US?
    - alexanderstears 9y ago
      America should lead the world in healthcare and many of those proposals would help us accomplish as much. We're mired in this current system with no rationing, low accountability, and rentiers sucking cash with the Government's approval and leftist protection against any reduction to the cashflow. Look at the yelps ushered by leftists when Trump stopped giving insurers free money - many of them bemoaned the loss of corporate welfare.
s73ver_ 9y ago
Ok. How?
- alexanderstears 9y ago
  https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 The crux is making it easier for consumers to get health care information, putting more choices in the hands of the patient, and creating a mechanism to encourage price sensitivity even if people don't pay for their care directly. failing that, let them rely on charity.
  - s73ver_ 9y ago
    I'm not seeing anything there that would help those who can't afford care. And charity is woefully inadequate, and still doesn't address needing care today.
    - alexanderstears 9y ago
      Then you didn't read it very closely, the article devotes a decent amount of space to how to set up the system that ensures people can get care regardless of their ability to pay. It's within the first two pages, look for the paragraph that starts with this 5. Said charges under (3) and (4) will, when submitted to Treasury
      - s73ver_ 9y ago
        I read it quite closely. It claims that's what it wants to do, but it doesn't actually do things that would accomplish that.
        alexanderstears 9y ago
        It lets people access healthcare regardless of their ability to pay for it, how is that contrary to the goal of increasing access to healthcare for the poor?

knz 9y ago

Do you have an alternative proposal for how these people access health care services? https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm implies that the US is spending considerably more (~ double the OECD average) per capita. ER visits could certainly explain some of that.

alexanderstears 9y ago
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 The crux is making it easier for consumers to get health care information, putting more choices in the hands of the patient, and creating a mechanism to encourage price sensitivity even if people don't pay for their care directly.
- knz 9y ago
  Respectfully, I feel this link is missing the broader picture - that the US has a health care system unlike any other OECD nation. Perhaps the crux is looking at models that have been successful in other countries and adapting them to the US?
  - alexanderstears 9y ago
    America should lead the world in healthcare and many of those proposals would help us accomplish as much. We're mired in this current system with no rationing, low accountability, and rentiers sucking cash with the Government's approval and leftist protection against any reduction to the cashflow. Look at the yelps ushered by leftists when Trump stopped giving insurers free money - many of them bemoaned the loss of corporate welfare.

s73ver_ 9y ago

Ok. How?

alexanderstears 9y ago
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949 The crux is making it easier for consumers to get health care information, putting more choices in the hands of the patient, and creating a mechanism to encourage price sensitivity even if people don't pay for their care directly. failing that, let them rely on charity.
- s73ver_ 9y ago
  I'm not seeing anything there that would help those who can't afford care. And charity is woefully inadequate, and still doesn't address needing care today.
  - alexanderstears 9y ago
    Then you didn't read it very closely, the article devotes a decent amount of space to how to set up the system that ensures people can get care regardless of their ability to pay. It's within the first two pages, look for the paragraph that starts with this 5. Said charges under (3) and (4) will, when submitted to Treasury
    - s73ver_ 9y ago
      I read it quite closely. It claims that's what it wants to do, but it doesn't actually do things that would accomplish that.
      - alexanderstears 9y ago
        It lets people access healthcare regardless of their ability to pay for it, how is that contrary to the goal of increasing access to healthcare for the poor?