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I noticed that too and that would definitely be a shame to have such a downgrade. I see how Dropbox is trying to diversify their prices based on features. But

I noticed that too and that would definitely be a shame to have such a downgrade. I see how Dropbox is trying to diversify their prices based on features. But honestly, they should try to compete harder with providers like Apple and Google by providing different storage tiers. Apple has 2TB for the same $9.99/mo Dropbox provides 1TB. At this point Dropbox has me mostly because of inertia and their reliability.

kayoone 9y ago
not only Apple and Google, compared to Office365 for $99 per year which includes 1TB Onedrive + full Office for up to 5 users, i don't see how dropbox is worth it nowadays
- ferdbold 9y ago
  Well they have me because Google Sync doesn't seem to work half of the time and/or takes forever to sync on all of my devices, and OneDrive and iCloud don't have clients on Linux (really?)
  - vanous 9y ago
    What sync do you use on Linux then? I am moving over from the Goog to mega. Full Linux support, 50GB, TNO.
    - askvictor 9y ago
      Insync is one option (you do have to pay though) that works much like Google's client; there are other command line options too.
    - ferdbold 9y ago
      I use Dropbox, but I might switch to Mega in the near future. The better storage capacity and leaner UI speaks to me. I haven't had any issues with the sync client so far either, though I've only tried it on Windows.
  - whipoodle 9y ago
    It’s so bad. My work just switched to Google from Dropbox and it performs much worse. Also everything about the client and the product just screams that Google doesn’t give a crap about it.
    - distances 9y ago
      Yes, Google Drive is the butt of many jokes in our company too. The main reason we're using it is because Dropbox is prohibitively expensive.
  - rodgerd 9y ago
    I'm sure not having clients on < 5% of the desktop market will cause Microsoft to become non-viable any day now.
    - rangibaby 9y ago
      I think it is this kind of attitude that made them miss the boat on mobile
      - rodgerd 9y ago
        You mean the boat where I can get Office etc on Android and iOS?
        rangibaby 9y ago
        In a way yes. If you told people 20 or 10 years ago that in 2017 Apple would be #1 company in the world and have the browser with the second most users (with the first NOT being IE) people would laugh at you.
  - slededit 9y ago
    To be pedantic you mean the POSIX userland. Office (including its OneDrive integration) does ship on Linux, albeit under the Android userland which doesn't help you if you want to run Ubuntu.
- tinus_hn 9y ago
  At least for the OneDrive for Business offering, it’s easy for them to offer 1tb of storage since you’re never going to be able to be use it anyway, the sync client will crash and burn long before you get near that. It is not in the same league as Dropbox.
  - Elepsis 9y ago
    The 1 TB storage that you get with regular Office 365 memberships is the regular OneDrive service, not OneDrive for Business. It works pretty well with large accounts. Also, it's likely that your past experience is with the old OneDrive for Business client. Last year the normal OneDrive client learned to sync OneDrive for Business data, and reliability and performance improved quite a bit. (I worked on OneDrive until last summer, but I don't currently work at Microsoft.)
    - CodeWriter23 9y ago
      Did they remove the hard limit of 20,000 files per OneDrive? Because if not, one would need to average 50MB per file to fill the 1TB up.
    - tinus_hn 9y ago
      No, my experience is with the ‘modern’ client. It is less terrible than the old one but still unreliable.
  - kayoone 9y ago
    OneDrive is no Dropbox (which i use aswell in its free form for sharing) but it works fine for me for general sync and storage.
epberry 9y ago
Unless it's still coming, I still have expiring and password links on my plus plan.
- pasukin 9y ago
  Existing customers who have access to shared link controls will keep this access. They’re “grandfathered” in.
pentae 9y ago
I'd be more satisfied with a company I could actually trust my data not to be handed over directly to state departments without a warrant myself
pasukin 9y ago
It's difficult to compare Dropbox to Apple, Google and Microsoft in terms of what they offer and for how much. All three of those giants are able to subsidize their storage offerings. Apple has their hardware business, Google has their ad business, and Microsoft has their software business. The storage offerings from all three are used to entice you into using their other services. It doesn't matter if they're profitable (and I'm willing to bet that they aren't). What does Dropbox have? Nothing but its storage offering.
- SmellTheGlove 9y ago
  If you're a consumer, it's easy to compare, though. Consumers don't care about the vendor's costs, just the price and some perception of stability (of which, if I had to bet, Dropbox and Apple are the most likely to not surprise-discontinue on us in the future). That said I'm pretty happy with Dropbox and not going to switch. I'd love Smart Sync, though, but not at 2x the price I'm paying for Plus right now. $99 a year is great, $199 not so much.
  - mynameisvlad 9y ago
    OneDrive has been around for 10 years and we're one of the best known companies for backwards compatibility and keeping things far past their prime (Hotmail/Outlook.com, for instance, which has been out for 21 years, albeit only 20 under the company.) What makes you think it's going to be surprise-discontinued?
    - Strom 9y ago
      Perhaps you'll decide to buy a competitor like Dropbox, choose their product as the one true product and close down OneDrive. Like you bought Skype and shut down MSN Messenger. That said, it probably won't happen overnight and it's not that difficult to migrate from OneDrive to Google Drive or such. Lock-in is low.
      - mynameisvlad 9y ago
        I mean, yeah, no product will last forever. MSN Messenger was alive for 14 years and was slowly dying as users were moving on to other services. At a certain point, it becomes unprofitable to keep sustaining a service. But even when it did get discontinued, all Messenger accounts and their contacts got transferred to the Skype service. If you still wanted to talk to the same people, you could just through a different client. You could sign in to Skype with your same credentials and talk to the same people for over a year before that happened, too, to give people time to adjust. Groove Music is an even more recent example. Yes, the service is going away, and certain parts of the deprecation might be annoying (you have to download all purchased music before the end of the year, for instance) but all accounts can be migrated to Spotify, a previous competitor of the service. It's not like we left people completely stranded without any options.

kayoone 9y ago

not only Apple and Google, compared to Office365 for $99 per year which includes 1TB Onedrive + full Office for up to 5 users, i don't see how dropbox is worth it nowadays

ferdbold 9y ago
Well they have me because Google Sync doesn't seem to work half of the time and/or takes forever to sync on all of my devices, and OneDrive and iCloud don't have clients on Linux (really?)
- vanous 9y ago
  What sync do you use on Linux then? I am moving over from the Goog to mega. Full Linux support, 50GB, TNO.
  - askvictor 9y ago
    Insync is one option (you do have to pay though) that works much like Google's client; there are other command line options too.
  - ferdbold 9y ago
    I use Dropbox, but I might switch to Mega in the near future. The better storage capacity and leaner UI speaks to me. I haven't had any issues with the sync client so far either, though I've only tried it on Windows.
- whipoodle 9y ago
  It’s so bad. My work just switched to Google from Dropbox and it performs much worse. Also everything about the client and the product just screams that Google doesn’t give a crap about it.
  - distances 9y ago
    Yes, Google Drive is the butt of many jokes in our company too. The main reason we're using it is because Dropbox is prohibitively expensive.
- rodgerd 9y ago
  I'm sure not having clients on < 5% of the desktop market will cause Microsoft to become non-viable any day now.
  - rangibaby 9y ago
    I think it is this kind of attitude that made them miss the boat on mobile
    - rodgerd 9y ago
      You mean the boat where I can get Office etc on Android and iOS?
      - rangibaby 9y ago
        In a way yes. If you told people 20 or 10 years ago that in 2017 Apple would be #1 company in the world and have the browser with the second most users (with the first NOT being IE) people would laugh at you.
- slededit 9y ago
  To be pedantic you mean the POSIX userland. Office (including its OneDrive integration) does ship on Linux, albeit under the Android userland which doesn't help you if you want to run Ubuntu.
tinus_hn 9y ago
At least for the OneDrive for Business offering, it’s easy for them to offer 1tb of storage since you’re never going to be able to be use it anyway, the sync client will crash and burn long before you get near that. It is not in the same league as Dropbox.
- Elepsis 9y ago
  The 1 TB storage that you get with regular Office 365 memberships is the regular OneDrive service, not OneDrive for Business. It works pretty well with large accounts. Also, it's likely that your past experience is with the old OneDrive for Business client. Last year the normal OneDrive client learned to sync OneDrive for Business data, and reliability and performance improved quite a bit. (I worked on OneDrive until last summer, but I don't currently work at Microsoft.)
  - CodeWriter23 9y ago
    Did they remove the hard limit of 20,000 files per OneDrive? Because if not, one would need to average 50MB per file to fill the 1TB up.
  - tinus_hn 9y ago
    No, my experience is with the ‘modern’ client. It is less terrible than the old one but still unreliable.
- kayoone 9y ago
  OneDrive is no Dropbox (which i use aswell in its free form for sharing) but it works fine for me for general sync and storage.

epberry 9y ago

Unless it's still coming, I still have expiring and password links on my plus plan.

pasukin 9y ago
Existing customers who have access to shared link controls will keep this access. They’re “grandfathered” in.

pentae 9y ago

I'd be more satisfied with a company I could actually trust my data not to be handed over directly to state departments without a warrant myself

pasukin 9y ago

It's difficult to compare Dropbox to Apple, Google and Microsoft in terms of what they offer and for how much. All three of those giants are able to subsidize their storage offerings. Apple has their hardware business, Google has their ad business, and Microsoft has their software business. The storage offerings from all three are used to entice you into using their other services. It doesn't matter if they're profitable (and I'm willing to bet that they aren't). What does Dropbox have? Nothing but its storage offering.

SmellTheGlove 9y ago
If you're a consumer, it's easy to compare, though. Consumers don't care about the vendor's costs, just the price and some perception of stability (of which, if I had to bet, Dropbox and Apple are the most likely to not surprise-discontinue on us in the future). That said I'm pretty happy with Dropbox and not going to switch. I'd love Smart Sync, though, but not at 2x the price I'm paying for Plus right now. $99 a year is great, $199 not so much.
- mynameisvlad 9y ago
  OneDrive has been around for 10 years and we're one of the best known companies for backwards compatibility and keeping things far past their prime (Hotmail/Outlook.com, for instance, which has been out for 21 years, albeit only 20 under the company.) What makes you think it's going to be surprise-discontinued?
  - Strom 9y ago
    Perhaps you'll decide to buy a competitor like Dropbox, choose their product as the one true product and close down OneDrive. Like you bought Skype and shut down MSN Messenger. That said, it probably won't happen overnight and it's not that difficult to migrate from OneDrive to Google Drive or such. Lock-in is low.
    - mynameisvlad 9y ago
      I mean, yeah, no product will last forever. MSN Messenger was alive for 14 years and was slowly dying as users were moving on to other services. At a certain point, it becomes unprofitable to keep sustaining a service. But even when it did get discontinued, all Messenger accounts and their contacts got transferred to the Skype service. If you still wanted to talk to the same people, you could just through a different client. You could sign in to Skype with your same credentials and talk to the same people for over a year before that happened, too, to give people time to adjust. Groove Music is an even more recent example. Yes, the service is going away, and certain parts of the deprecation might be annoying (you have to download all purchased music before the end of the year, for instance) but all accounts can be migrated to Spotify, a previous competitor of the service. It's not like we left people completely stranded without any options.