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As a non-American I'm so glad I don't work in an country where politics seems to create such hysteria in the workplace. I know Trump was a big unexpected shock

As a non-American I'm so glad I don't work in an country where politics seems to create such hysteria in the workplace. I know Trump was a big unexpected shock to many but come on... crying executives, I mean what the hell

bogomipz 9y ago
>"As a non-American I'm so glad I don't work in an country where politics seems to create such hysteria in the workplace." Your America bashing is completely uncalled for and unwarranted. It's pretty sad that you don't realize that executives getting on stage and crying in front of employees the day after an election is a complete aberration. This was was not and is not commonplace.
- pc86 9y ago
  I'm an American and I can say without hesitation that in most of the companies I've worked for, executive leadership has been uncomfortably political on both sides of the aisle. Even from the non-partisan side, I worked for a company where the owner decided it was now required that you vote. He didn't care what party you were registered or who you voted for, but if you didn't vote it would be brought up in a review. And as someone who quite frequently rolls his eyes at the inevitable "As a European.." comments on every American politics or healthcare article posted on HN, I didn't see the GP as America bashing at all.
  - Spooky23 9y ago
    That's why I've avoided small business like the plague. That's an extreme position -- even political hacks aren't usually that political in their appointed positions!
- pm90 9y ago
  This is most certainly not American bashing, only a nod to the extent that political partisanship has infiltrated American culture.
  - bogomipz 9y ago
    Stating "I'm so glad I don't work in an country where X", strikes me as a little stronger than a "nod." More especially so when "X" is a second-hand anecdote and that second-hand anecdote stems from a company that is in no way representative of the average American work place.
- dang 9y ago
  > Your [...] you That's unduly personal, and therefore uncivil, regardless of how wrong someone else is. Unfortunately this kind of thing appears frequently in your comment history. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules when commenting here?
  - bogomipz 9y ago
    I'm confused, my use of possessive pronouns is uncivil? I've read the guidelines, specifically the "In Comments" section. I'm failing to see where my comment runs afoul of the guidelines. It's not snark, its not something you wouldn't say face to face etc. Can you you elaborate?
    - dang 9y ago
      Not the pronoun itself, of course, but when you use it to make negative insinuations about the person you're talking to, that's unduly personal and crosses into incivility. You did it twice above. Other examples in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15472109 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15472109. Please don't do this.
weberc2 9y ago
Mind you, America is a vast and diverse place; California/Silicon Valley/Google are at an extreme end of the spectrum, and they also get a disproportionate amount of attention. Rest assured, much of America is saner.
- TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
  I see what you're getting at, but "saner" is biased language. Cali/SV/Google all lean one way because they've been benefiting from the way things have been going. The thought that large swaths of the country have been experiencing a declining quality of life just doesn't register to them. That doesn't make them "insane," just uninformed.
  - weberc2 9y ago
    It's definitely figurative language and I understand that it's charged, but I don't think it's "biased" in any sense of the term that might illegitimate my opinion. I don't think "uninformed" accurately conveys the phenomena we're seeing in our country, particularly since much similar ignorance flows out of institutions that ostensibly know better--notably the academy and media.

bogomipz 9y ago

>"As a non-American I'm so glad I don't work in an country where politics seems to create such hysteria in the workplace." Your America bashing is completely uncalled for and unwarranted. It's pretty sad that you don't realize that executives getting on stage and crying in front of employees the day after an election is a complete aberration. This was was not and is not commonplace.

pc86 9y ago
I'm an American and I can say without hesitation that in most of the companies I've worked for, executive leadership has been uncomfortably political on both sides of the aisle. Even from the non-partisan side, I worked for a company where the owner decided it was now required that you vote. He didn't care what party you were registered or who you voted for, but if you didn't vote it would be brought up in a review. And as someone who quite frequently rolls his eyes at the inevitable "As a European.." comments on every American politics or healthcare article posted on HN, I didn't see the GP as America bashing at all.
- Spooky23 9y ago
  That's why I've avoided small business like the plague. That's an extreme position -- even political hacks aren't usually that political in their appointed positions!
pm90 9y ago
This is most certainly not American bashing, only a nod to the extent that political partisanship has infiltrated American culture.
- bogomipz 9y ago
  Stating "I'm so glad I don't work in an country where X", strikes me as a little stronger than a "nod." More especially so when "X" is a second-hand anecdote and that second-hand anecdote stems from a company that is in no way representative of the average American work place.
dang 9y ago
> Your [...] you That's unduly personal, and therefore uncivil, regardless of how wrong someone else is. Unfortunately this kind of thing appears frequently in your comment history. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules when commenting here?
- bogomipz 9y ago
  I'm confused, my use of possessive pronouns is uncivil? I've read the guidelines, specifically the "In Comments" section. I'm failing to see where my comment runs afoul of the guidelines. It's not snark, its not something you wouldn't say face to face etc. Can you you elaborate?
  - dang 9y ago
    Not the pronoun itself, of course, but when you use it to make negative insinuations about the person you're talking to, that's unduly personal and crosses into incivility. You did it twice above. Other examples in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15472109 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15472109. Please don't do this.

weberc2 9y ago

Mind you, America is a vast and diverse place; California/Silicon Valley/Google are at an extreme end of the spectrum, and they also get a disproportionate amount of attention. Rest assured, much of America is saner.

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
I see what you're getting at, but "saner" is biased language. Cali/SV/Google all lean one way because they've been benefiting from the way things have been going. The thought that large swaths of the country have been experiencing a declining quality of life just doesn't register to them. That doesn't make them "insane," just uninformed.
- weberc2 9y ago
  It's definitely figurative language and I understand that it's charged, but I don't think it's "biased" in any sense of the term that might illegitimate my opinion. I don't think "uninformed" accurately conveys the phenomena we're seeing in our country, particularly since much similar ignorance flows out of institutions that ostensibly know better--notably the academy and media.