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Mostly bullshit in my opinion. I've been at Google since 2009. Never heard of so-called blacklists, but in a company with tens of thousands of employees, you ca

Mostly bullshit in my opinion. I've been at Google since 2009. Never heard of so-called blacklists, but in a company with tens of thousands of employees, you can probably find a few people who hold grudges against other people. What's your point? You don't think at other companies, corporate politics doesn't create animosity of people who don't want to work with others? I previously worked at IBM and Oracle for years and I can tell you, that kind of behavior is exponentially worse, complete with engineered backstabbing and deliberate sabotage against coworkes. So if that's Kindergarten behavior, Google is college by comparison.

peoplewindow 9y ago
You should read the Breitbart interviews then. There are screenshots of Googlers on internal G+ saying they maintain blacklists of people they won't work with for political reasons, or sometimes, even just because someone spoke up and said "hey, blacklisting your colleagues isn't a good idea".
- cromwellian 9y ago
  I'm guessing most are probably women (or close allies) who basically don't want to work with people like Damore. My kids are half-Chinese. If one of my coworkers said "these half-breed children are polluting our race", I'm pretty sure I'd shy away from working with them. Damore basically implied that Google lowers the bar for female engineers (which it does not), and therefore immediately cast doubt on the quality and merit of his female coworkers. If I was a woman, I might decide I don't want to work with someone who feels I'm not really supposed to be there.
  - peoplewindow 9y ago
    They were men, actually. Again, rather than speculate, I suggest you get over your fear of Breitbart and just go read the interviews. Damore didn't say or imply what you're claiming either. I wonder how carefully you read what he wrote, if at all. He talked about interest at the population level. He didn't claim female Googlers weren't as good as male Googlers. That was a strawman thrown about by people who couldn't argue with his actual points and so preferred to argue with something else. So - lots of assumptions on your part, all wrong. Not the type of data driven analysis I remember Google exalting, back in the day.
emsy 9y ago
>Never heard of so-called blacklists Dead giveaway that you are on one :P
kamaal 9y ago
>>IBM and Oracle for years and I can tell you, that kind of behavior is exponentially worse These dynamics are common in any system where you have a pyramid structure and resources are limited.

peoplewindow 9y ago

You should read the Breitbart interviews then. There are screenshots of Googlers on internal G+ saying they maintain blacklists of people they won't work with for political reasons, or sometimes, even just because someone spoke up and said "hey, blacklisting your colleagues isn't a good idea".

cromwellian 9y ago
I'm guessing most are probably women (or close allies) who basically don't want to work with people like Damore. My kids are half-Chinese. If one of my coworkers said "these half-breed children are polluting our race", I'm pretty sure I'd shy away from working with them. Damore basically implied that Google lowers the bar for female engineers (which it does not), and therefore immediately cast doubt on the quality and merit of his female coworkers. If I was a woman, I might decide I don't want to work with someone who feels I'm not really supposed to be there.
- peoplewindow 9y ago
  They were men, actually. Again, rather than speculate, I suggest you get over your fear of Breitbart and just go read the interviews. Damore didn't say or imply what you're claiming either. I wonder how carefully you read what he wrote, if at all. He talked about interest at the population level. He didn't claim female Googlers weren't as good as male Googlers. That was a strawman thrown about by people who couldn't argue with his actual points and so preferred to argue with something else. So - lots of assumptions on your part, all wrong. Not the type of data driven analysis I remember Google exalting, back in the day.

emsy 9y ago

>Never heard of so-called blacklists Dead giveaway that you are on one :P

kamaal 9y ago

>>IBM and Oracle for years and I can tell you, that kind of behavior is exponentially worse These dynamics are common in any system where you have a pyramid structure and resources are limited.