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Looking at the specs, (linked in another comment), it appears that the USB-C port doesn't support Thunderbolt 3. Seriously, Microsoft, you can't charge this mu
by olympus 9y ago
Looking at the specs, (linked in another comment), it appears that the USB-C port doesn't support Thunderbolt 3. Seriously, Microsoft, you can't charge this much for a laptop without TB3. I know that TB started as an Apple standard, but you're not killing this port like you did with Firewire. Your case of NIMBY has cost you my sale. I'll wait and get the next premium Lenovo/HP/ASUS/etc Ultrabook with 8th gen i7 AND TB3.
- plttn 9y agoNot enough PCIe lanes in Surface Connect. Since the CPU is in the clipboard, but the USB-C port is in the keyboard, there would have to be available PCIe lanes on the Surface Connect port, but it's taken up by the GPU lanes.
- aq3cn 9y agoI guess we may see an upgrade in Surface Connect by next generation. Any chance, TB3 could be included in clipboard itself?
- jrs95 9y agoHonestly, TB3 kind of makes one of the main features of the Surface Book irrelevant in my opinion. If you can just connect a dGPU at your desk, do you really need one in the base of the laptop? Is that worth the related driver issues and the extra cost of a Surface Book?
- maaaats 9y agoI have a MacBook Pro and have never used thunderbolt. Why is it a big deal / what do you use it for?
- jclardy 9y agoI use it for external GPU and an external TB2 SSD raid array. The thing is, these laptops are starting at $2500, ignoring the base model integrated GPU that is just there for making the starting price attractive (although that one could benefit the most from an eGPU...) It sounds like a technical reason for it being excluded (lacking extra PCI-E lanes) but it is just disappointing on a laptop in the $2.5k-$3k range in late 2017.
- jackmott 9y agosince they already have a 1060 in the surface, they will only be losing customers with TB2 SSD raid arrays on their laptops I guess. So like 3 people.
- petemill 9y agoI use a single TB3 port to connect two 4K displays, 100W power and all USB devices all through a single cable
- izacus 9y agoAnd Surface Book 2 will do that just fine. (You're almost certainly not using Thunderbolt but plethora if USB-C alternate modes)
- jskopek 9y agoA USB-C port will just barely power a 4K display at 60hz on its own. There's no way to get two 4k displays, USB, and power delivery without the bandwidth of Thunderbolt 3
- kayoone 9y agoIs it a Macbook ? I haven't seen that it's possible to connect two monitors over one TB3 port on the MBP 16.
- threeseed 9y agoThunderbolt is and has always been an Intel standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)