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"Kremlin-backed intrusion that hit the Gmail account of Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta" It's quite obvious to many that it was the Russians, ev
by jamiesonbecker 9y ago
"Kremlin-backed intrusion that hit the Gmail account of Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta"
It's quite obvious to many that it was the Russians, even in the absence of formal proof. Why do we have to keep seeing this assertion, especially when the CIA had a team making malware that emulated or included ostensibly Russian code. No one was trying to frame the Russians; it was just to save time.
https://theintercept.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-files-show-the-cia-repurposing-foreign-hacking-code-to-save-time-not-to-frame-russia/ https://theintercept.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-files-show-the...
- noitsnot 9y agoWhen Wikileaks was releasing her emails she called them fake and brushed it under the carpet. But when Trump suddenly wins, they corrupted the election. Fraud!
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- ChrisClark 9y agoThat's... not exclusive... Both those statements can be completely true. I seriously can't understand the logic of these trumpettes.
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- ZoeZoeBee 9y agoIf it weren't for those pesky DKIM keys you might be on to something...
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- nateberkopec 9y agoAh yes, a hacker organization which does things like create Android malware to disable Ukrainian artillery and attempts to interfere with American elections is probably not a Russian front. Come on. Dell SecureWorks and the CIA have presented plenty of evidence that this was a Russian-backed group, probably GRU. EDIT: Also, even if there aren't lines in their malware which say "(c) GRU 2017", Fancy Bear is a group which consistently targets enemies of the Russian government. They don't steal credit card numbers, they commit digital terrorism that furthers Russia's interests. It doesn't really matter if they're 100% state-backed or not, because they clearly and consistently act in the Russian government's interests. An organization which hacks targets that benefit Russia and a Russian gov't hacking organization are the same thing from the perspective of the United States.
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- peoplewindow 9y agoIt'd be kind of weird if they were state backed given that they run websites with their own name and use cheap Anonymous slogans: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37374053/what-we-know-about-fancy-bears-hack-team http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37374053/what-we-know-... Russian - would make a lot of sense. Run by the government? Seems more like the sort of approach I'd expect from a bunch of kids who got bored of spamming/malware and got political. Phishing isn't really an advanced technique by intelligence agency standards.
- jamiesonbecker 9y agoDon't feed the trolls ;)
- dragonwriter 9y ago> OT, but why do we keep seeing this; there seems to be less than zero evidence that it was the Russians. There is considerably more than zero evidence that it was the Russians, though most of the public evidence is indirect.