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The article keeps mentioning torrents as a free panacea that disproves the need for decentralized monetized hosting systems, but for some reason no one else eve

The article keeps mentioning torrents as a free panacea that disproves the need for decentralized monetized hosting systems, but for some reason no one else ever helped seed the torrent of my encrypted backups when I posted it onto piratebay.

admax88q 9y ago
Google, Amazon or Tarsnap will all host it for you for a small fee. What value is there in decentralized hosting across lots of commodity nodes of your private encrypted data? As opposed to ”centralized" hosting with a few different providers.
- mbrock 9y ago
  The decentralized network is a marketplace where different providers can participate with unified payment and APIs, so it's a way to abstract over the hosts, increasing efficiency and resilience. Whether you will end up with a small number of megahosters or a more p2p like topology seems like a question for the market to decide.
- gwbas1c 9y ago
  Might be useful as a P2P backup? For example, If I want to backup 1GB, I have to donate 3GB to the network. Considering the hardware cost, it's probably obvious why everyone just pays a 3rd party.
  - adrianN 9y ago
    I'm pretty sure that plugging a big USB stick into your router is cheaper than paying some cloud service to host your backups. The problem is that it's a lot more complicated to have distributed backups than just plugging storage into an internet-connected device in your home.
- AgentME 9y ago
  Why should those companies get to have a monopoly on file hosting? I'd prefer to have a single system where I can put my files out there with a bit of money and have them kept by anyone who is able to host them. A system like that could offer more competitive prices, and by using such a system, I'd be encouraging a world where I or people like me could easily get paid for hosting when we find ourselves with extra capacity.
JimmyAustin 9y ago
The trick is to label it “[MSFT] Windows10 Build7600 Source+Assets.zip” first.
kevingadd 9y ago
This is literally a product. The BitTorrent company made it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resilio_Sync https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resilio_Sync
- jasode 9y ago
  I think you've overlooked the parent poster's qualifiers of "free" and "monetized". Resilio doesn't solve the fundamental cost issue. If both AgentME and I install Resilio and act as bittorrent nodes, I still have no incentive download his encrypted backups onto my harddrives. A company like Mercedes-Benz[1] and its affiliate dealers can use Resilio to synchronize and get/share the latest car software. They all want those software files. In contrast, I do not want AgentME's (potentially multi-terabyte) encrypted backups. [1] https://www.resilio.com/casestudies/mercedesbenz/ https://www.resilio.com/casestudies/mercedesbenz/

admax88q 9y ago

Google, Amazon or Tarsnap will all host it for you for a small fee. What value is there in decentralized hosting across lots of commodity nodes of your private encrypted data? As opposed to ”centralized" hosting with a few different providers.

mbrock 9y ago
The decentralized network is a marketplace where different providers can participate with unified payment and APIs, so it's a way to abstract over the hosts, increasing efficiency and resilience. Whether you will end up with a small number of megahosters or a more p2p like topology seems like a question for the market to decide.
gwbas1c 9y ago
Might be useful as a P2P backup? For example, If I want to backup 1GB, I have to donate 3GB to the network. Considering the hardware cost, it's probably obvious why everyone just pays a 3rd party.
- adrianN 9y ago
  I'm pretty sure that plugging a big USB stick into your router is cheaper than paying some cloud service to host your backups. The problem is that it's a lot more complicated to have distributed backups than just plugging storage into an internet-connected device in your home.
AgentME 9y ago
Why should those companies get to have a monopoly on file hosting? I'd prefer to have a single system where I can put my files out there with a bit of money and have them kept by anyone who is able to host them. A system like that could offer more competitive prices, and by using such a system, I'd be encouraging a world where I or people like me could easily get paid for hosting when we find ourselves with extra capacity.

JimmyAustin 9y ago

The trick is to label it “[MSFT] Windows10 Build7600 Source+Assets.zip” first.

kevingadd 9y ago

This is literally a product. The BitTorrent company made it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resilio_Sync https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resilio_Sync

jasode 9y ago
I think you've overlooked the parent poster's qualifiers of "free" and "monetized". Resilio doesn't solve the fundamental cost issue. If both AgentME and I install Resilio and act as bittorrent nodes, I still have no incentive download his encrypted backups onto my harddrives. A company like Mercedes-Benz[1] and its affiliate dealers can use Resilio to synchronize and get/share the latest car software. They all want those software files. In contrast, I do not want AgentME's (potentially multi-terabyte) encrypted backups. [1] https://www.resilio.com/casestudies/mercedesbenz/ https://www.resilio.com/casestudies/mercedesbenz/