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Someone needs to study the effects of weed smoke on the lungs. That's the most common way to consume cannabis and I have a feeling it harms the lungs similar to

Someone needs to study the effects of weed smoke on the lungs. That's the most common way to consume cannabis and I have a feeling it harms the lungs similar to the effects of smoking cigarettes.

KGIII 9y ago
I think it's safe to say that lighting stuff on fire and inhaling the smoke is bad for you, regardless of the substance. Note, I do smoke pot and cigars. I'm pretty sure both are bad for me.
- learc83 9y ago
  I'm sure smoking anything is harmful to some extent, but tobacco is particular harmful. For instance, it causes mouth cancer just by chewing on it.
- mklod 9y ago
  Ah, a man of sound first principles
lkozloff 9y ago
I suspect you're right, but I believe (not a user myself) most users consume many fewer joints than cigarettes. I've known many "2 packs a day" tobacco users, but never someone who smokes so much weed. I'd guess that average marijuana users have similar lung issues to 'light' smokers.
- gpm 9y ago
  On the other hand cigarettes have filters and to my (limited) knowledge no one smokes weed through a filter.
  - everly 9y ago
    Lots of people smoke weed through a filter. That's the purpose of water in a bong.
    - ionised 9y ago
      What about the ones smoking joints?
      - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
        Sure. Visit Amsterdam, and you'll find most joints have filters. Of course, they aren't "proper" filters, just tubes of paper rolled up and placed in the smoking end.
        ionised 9y ago
        They are not really supposed to be filters though, just 'roach' to make the joint easier to hold.
        Broken_Hippo 9y ago
        Yup. Doesn't really exist in american pot culture, though - from that point of view, it is a filter. I think some folks would call those rolled-up paper bits wussy or something. Then again, lots of folks here (Norway) smoke hand-rolled cigarettes without filters as well - mostly starts as a cost-saving thing and cops aren't going to give you crap for having drug paraphernalia because you have cigarette papers like they would in the states. I can't remember if I've seen actual filters for sale in the shops in Amsterdam or not, but I'm going to guess they'd sell so long as they don't affect the buzz at all.
    - hfourm 9y ago
      This isn't really the same thing. Technically bongs, bubblers and bowls are much worse to smoke than a joint. Because these devices make it easier to "inhale the smoke", users typically get a far larger "hit" then they would from smoking a joint. This is much more damaging.
      - everly 9y ago
        This is not accurate.
  - arthens 9y ago
    Whether filters are actually providing any health benefit or not is apparently a controversial topic https://theconversation.com/filters-a-cigarette-engineering-hoax-that-harms-both-smokers-and-the-environment-85393 https://theconversation.com/filters-a-cigarette-engineering-... http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/modern-cigarette-filters-increase-the-risk-of-lung-cancer-study-finds-20170525-gwcpbv.html http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/modern-cigarette-filte...
hourislate 9y ago
Not an expert but I'm sure inhaling any kind of smoke is not good for the lungs but you don't smoke 20 Marijuana cigarettes a day like you would tobacco. It's not consumed in the same quantities. The biggest difference between the two are that the Tobacco companies add a lot of chemicals to their product that can cause cancer. I would think that Marijuana is organic.
pilom 9y ago
>That's the most common way to consume cannabis. I'm very suspicious of this claim for users in Colorado without a source. Anecdotally, the vast majority of legal use I see in Colorado is edibles. They don't have the stigma of smoking or the (legitimate) smoke inhalation concerns and thus seem much more popular among legal users.
- mklod 9y ago
  Flower is around 60% market share. And it's usually smoked. By comparison, edibles are around 7% market share. Source: Headset Cannabis Market Insights
  - VeejayRampay 9y ago
    Some of those flowers are also consumed using vaporizers or Volcano-type inhalers, which have no negative side-effects (since no carcinogens are generated). I doubt it's a high percentage though.
    - dingo_bat 9y ago
      > have no negative side-effects Do you know if this has been studied?
  - pilom 9y ago
    Perfect thank you.
mklod 9y ago
I'm actively working on this. We've built lab equipment for academic researchers to run the ongoing study. Further, second hand smoke from cannabis is worse than second hand smoke from tobacco! >One minute of exposure to marijuana SHS substantially impairs endothelial function in rats for at least 90 minutes, considerably longer than comparable impairment by tobacco SHS. DOI: 10.1161/JAHA.116.003858
code_duck 9y ago
That has been studied, of course. It's hard to believe most information about cannabis due to the decades of government-corporate propaganda against it. Tobacco is highly toxic. Cannabis is not at all toxic, and in fact beneficial. That makes a difference in the smoke. I read a report from the UK saying that cannabis's antioxidants and other helpful chemicals made up for any harm it caused by smoke. One can vape anyway, and most serious enthusiasts dab.
- ensignavenger 9y ago
  Do you have any references handy? I would like to look at any studies you know of in that area.
  - code_duck 9y ago
    If only my bookmarks were more organized... I'll check back if i can locate the articles i mentioned.

Someone needs to study the effects of weed smoke on the lungs. That's the most common way to consume cannabis and I have a feeling it harms the lungs similar to the effects of smoking cigarettes.

KGIII 9y ago

I think it's safe to say that lighting stuff on fire and inhaling the smoke is bad for you, regardless of the substance. Note, I do smoke pot and cigars. I'm pretty sure both are bad for me.

learc83 9y ago
I'm sure smoking anything is harmful to some extent, but tobacco is particular harmful. For instance, it causes mouth cancer just by chewing on it.
mklod 9y ago
Ah, a man of sound first principles

lkozloff 9y ago

I suspect you're right, but I believe (not a user myself) most users consume many fewer joints than cigarettes. I've known many "2 packs a day" tobacco users, but never someone who smokes so much weed. I'd guess that average marijuana users have similar lung issues to 'light' smokers.

gpm 9y ago
On the other hand cigarettes have filters and to my (limited) knowledge no one smokes weed through a filter.
- everly 9y ago
  Lots of people smoke weed through a filter. That's the purpose of water in a bong.
  - ionised 9y ago
    What about the ones smoking joints?
    - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
      Sure. Visit Amsterdam, and you'll find most joints have filters. Of course, they aren't "proper" filters, just tubes of paper rolled up and placed in the smoking end.
      - ionised 9y ago
        They are not really supposed to be filters though, just 'roach' to make the joint easier to hold.
        Broken_Hippo 9y ago
        Yup. Doesn't really exist in american pot culture, though - from that point of view, it is a filter. I think some folks would call those rolled-up paper bits wussy or something. Then again, lots of folks here (Norway) smoke hand-rolled cigarettes without filters as well - mostly starts as a cost-saving thing and cops aren't going to give you crap for having drug paraphernalia because you have cigarette papers like they would in the states. I can't remember if I've seen actual filters for sale in the shops in Amsterdam or not, but I'm going to guess they'd sell so long as they don't affect the buzz at all.
  - hfourm 9y ago
    This isn't really the same thing. Technically bongs, bubblers and bowls are much worse to smoke than a joint. Because these devices make it easier to "inhale the smoke", users typically get a far larger "hit" then they would from smoking a joint. This is much more damaging.
    - everly 9y ago
      This is not accurate.
- arthens 9y ago
  Whether filters are actually providing any health benefit or not is apparently a controversial topic https://theconversation.com/filters-a-cigarette-engineering-hoax-that-harms-both-smokers-and-the-environment-85393 https://theconversation.com/filters-a-cigarette-engineering-... http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/modern-cigarette-filters-increase-the-risk-of-lung-cancer-study-finds-20170525-gwcpbv.html http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/modern-cigarette-filte...

hourislate 9y ago

Not an expert but I'm sure inhaling any kind of smoke is not good for the lungs but you don't smoke 20 Marijuana cigarettes a day like you would tobacco. It's not consumed in the same quantities. The biggest difference between the two are that the Tobacco companies add a lot of chemicals to their product that can cause cancer. I would think that Marijuana is organic.

pilom 9y ago

>That's the most common way to consume cannabis. I'm very suspicious of this claim for users in Colorado without a source. Anecdotally, the vast majority of legal use I see in Colorado is edibles. They don't have the stigma of smoking or the (legitimate) smoke inhalation concerns and thus seem much more popular among legal users.

mklod 9y ago
Flower is around 60% market share. And it's usually smoked. By comparison, edibles are around 7% market share. Source: Headset Cannabis Market Insights
- VeejayRampay 9y ago
  Some of those flowers are also consumed using vaporizers or Volcano-type inhalers, which have no negative side-effects (since no carcinogens are generated). I doubt it's a high percentage though.
  - dingo_bat 9y ago
    > have no negative side-effects Do you know if this has been studied?
- pilom 9y ago
  Perfect thank you.

mklod 9y ago

I'm actively working on this. We've built lab equipment for academic researchers to run the ongoing study. Further, second hand smoke from cannabis is worse than second hand smoke from tobacco! >One minute of exposure to marijuana SHS substantially impairs endothelial function in rats for at least 90 minutes, considerably longer than comparable impairment by tobacco SHS. DOI: 10.1161/JAHA.116.003858

code_duck 9y ago

That has been studied, of course. It's hard to believe most information about cannabis due to the decades of government-corporate propaganda against it. Tobacco is highly toxic. Cannabis is not at all toxic, and in fact beneficial. That makes a difference in the smoke. I read a report from the UK saying that cannabis's antioxidants and other helpful chemicals made up for any harm it caused by smoke. One can vape anyway, and most serious enthusiasts dab.

ensignavenger 9y ago
Do you have any references handy? I would like to look at any studies you know of in that area.
- code_duck 9y ago
  If only my bookmarks were more organized... I'll check back if i can locate the articles i mentioned.