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This may also train smokers who do throw away their butts to instead think it's ok to throw them anywhere.
by glitcher 9y ago
This may also train smokers who do throw away their butts to instead think it's ok to throw them anywhere.
- ceedan 9y agoYeah... the callousness of smokers and their littering is unacceptable. I understand that throwing your cigarette in the trash can be a fire hazard sometimes, but put the cigarette out and throw it out. Some smokers just seem to love flicking that still-burning cigarette into the road like it's no big deal.
- major505 9y agoIn this case, you just smash the flasme in the floor and then throw in the trash. There is minimum hazard of the thing catch fire, specially if it has a cover. Many places have designated trash for butts. Where I work, thare is a company that collect these cans, and transform in paper. After 2 years they are now being proffiteble. But as a smoker, I fell terrible when there is a trash can in the place, but there are lots of butts in the floor. Makes me mad.
- kevin_thibedeau 9y ago> Many places have designated trash for butts. Which can still catch on fire.
- andymcsherry 9y agoSmoker in San Francisco here. I've thought about this quite a bit and here's my dilemma. 1. It is illegal to smoke indoors 2. San Francisco has made it illegal to have ash trays outdoors 3. Cigarettes set trash on fire so it's not acceptable to put them in the bin 4. Cigarettes have a tax on every pack earmarked to fund street clean-up I'd prefer to not throw my cigarettes on the ground, but I've been left with no real alternative. Also, I've specifically paid a tax that should fund that clean-up.
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- kbutler 9y agoAmazon solves your dilemma for $4.99 https://www.amazon.com/SmartDealsPro-Stainless-Portable-Circular-Cigarette/dp/B00P8QO0F2 https://www.amazon.com/SmartDealsPro-Stainless-Portable-Circ... You buy and carry the pack of cigarettes and the lighter, so the portable ashtray isn't a big additional expense or burden.
- RandallBrown 9y agoPut them out and put them in the garbage, your pocket, or a plastic bag. When people go out to a national park they don't just throw trash on the ground because "I paid an entry fee that should fund the clean up."
- andymcsherry 9y agoI think what I've mention already should outline the impracticality of your suggestion. It's hard to distinguish between a cigarette that's fully extinguished or not. This is why ashtrays are made of glass or contain sand, you can't set it on fire. Smokers are easy to demonize when you don't understand their dilemmas. Don't worry we're pretty used to it. Most smokers I know understand their habit bothers people and do their best to not cause a burden on others. When society has set up rules that make it impossible to do something properly, don't be surprised when people don't.
- BHSPitMonkey 9y agoSo smush it properly with your shoe and then put it in your pocket until you get home or find a worthy receptacle. If I have a granola bar wrapper in my hand and there's no trash cans nearby, I don't throw it on the ground; I hold it in my hand/pocket/bag until I can dispose of it. Cigarette filters are not a special case in this thinking.
- spditner 9y agoThere is a category of products to help address that called a "portable ashtray", they can often clip on your key ring.
- brulez 9y agoWhy not also start enforcing littering fines? A $270-$500 ticket should be help to incentivize a behavior change.
- synicalx 9y agoIMO, that works incredibly well in Singapore for chewing gum - I think it's about $1000US for a first time gum dropper.
- ch4s3 9y agoThis is the essence of "Broken Windows" policing, and at least in the US has proven to be a broken policy. A large number of factors, specifically officer discretion turn these types of minor offenses into taxes levied against the poorest communities. Also, I'm not sure I want the armed enforcers of the state getting into altercations with otherwise law abiding folks over littering.
- dark_silicon 9y agoThe failings of the broken windows policies hinge on their faulty premise: that the sight of minor crimes going unenforced leads to people brashly escalating to higher crimes. I don't believe this premise, yet I wonder sometimes if keeping the peace in regards to smaller offenses would lead to fewer incidences of anger turning to road rage or violent crime. If people do not feel safe or that they have civil outlets for resolution of grievances, perhaps they're more violent? I'm curious what the more social science oriented on this site might know about this. In any case, there's still yet another reason to enforce laws against small crimes: littering is a terrible thing in itself!