> the initiative system Hasn't produced much in the way of spending as a fraction of CA govt expenditures. (High speed rail may.) Seriously - total up all the

> the initiative system Hasn't produced much in the way of spending as a fraction of CA govt expenditures. (High speed rail may.) Seriously - total up all the initiative driven spending and compare it to what CA spends. (And no, you don't get to count initiatives that the legislature put on the ballot.) Yes, there are billions of dollars of initiative-driven spending, but it's a cup or two in the bucket. The shift to bonds isn't the voters' idea either.