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Theory as is not confirmed by any observation yet! Why the downvote ?

acqq 9y ago
The first indirect observational confirmation of the gravitational waves was published in 1982, that is, 35 years ago: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1982ApJ...253..908T http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1982ApJ...253..908T But the work on the gravitational wave detectors started much earlier, some fundamental calculations to support the current project were made already in the 1967, 50 years ago! That scientist (Rainer Weiss) got a half of the Nobel Prize in Physics this year for that: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2017/ https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/20... Richard Feynman contributed his (valid) argument in support of the energy actually carried by the gravitational waves at the first American conference on general relativity, GR1, in 1957, 60 years ago: https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/03/07/how-richard-feynman-convinced-the-naysayers-that-gravitational-waves-were-real-60-years-ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/03/07/how-... Regarding the false understanding of the term "scientific theory" by the non-scientific public: "A scientific theory is an explanation of some aspect of the natural world that has been substantiated through repeated experiments or testing [emphasis mine]. But to the average Jane or Joe, a theory is [wrongly] just an idea that lives in someone's head, rather than an explanation rooted in experiment and testing [the actual scientific meaning]." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/just-a-theory-7-misused-science-words/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/just-a-theory-7-m... The gravitation is also "a scientific theory." The gravitational waves are the consequence of the General Relativity, the theory introduced in 1915 by Einstein (102 years ago), but which was also based on the centuries of the previous observations and calculations i.e. all the discoveries of the gravitation (Newton 1687, 330 years ago), electricity, magnetism, electromagnetic waves (more than 200 years ago), etc. "Though these words [like "theory"] may be routinely misunderstood, the real problem, scientists say, is that people don't get rigorous science education in middle school and high school. As a result, the public doesn't understand how scientific explanations are formed, tested and accepted." That I have to write all this is a kind of confirmation of that statement. Just the same, the science of global warming is also based on the scientific observations and valid theories since 1824 (almost 200 years ago): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_scie...
- swift 9y ago
  People misunderstand this stuff in part because of the failure to make a distinction between a theory (which is often a mathematical description of a system, though this depends on the discipline) and an interpretation (which really is an idea in someone’s head, though often one we have good reason to believe). Scientists mostly work with the former day-to-day, but the general public is mostly interested in the latter. Usually this distinction isn’t really a big deal, but in some cases - quantum mechanics, for example - there’s a big difference between the two, with multiple interesting interpretations to consider. When we don’t make this distinction it creates an opening for people with poor understanding (or, occasionally, bad motives) to nitpick extremely well-established theories on the basis of quibbling about interpretation. I worry about this with respect to climate change specifically: deniers come up with a million reasons that climate change may be partially natural, or that this or that industry may be unfairly maligned, but we can’t get sucked into those debates so much that we forget the big picture painted by the data and models we have.
rocqua 9y ago
The correct term of an idea that hasn't been tested yet is a hypothesis. A `theory' is a full featured explanation. Generally, one requires a theory to be 'accepted as true' by the majority of the scientific community. The nomenclature here really sucks, because colloquially theory and hypothesis are essentially synonyms. However, it makes no sense to talk about the hypothesis of gravity. This discussion comes up most often around claims like "The theory of evolution is just a theory".

acqq 9y ago

The first indirect observational confirmation of the gravitational waves was published in 1982, that is, 35 years ago: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1982ApJ...253..908T http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1982ApJ...253..908T But the work on the gravitational wave detectors started much earlier, some fundamental calculations to support the current project were made already in the 1967, 50 years ago! That scientist (Rainer Weiss) got a half of the Nobel Prize in Physics this year for that: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2017/ https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/20... Richard Feynman contributed his (valid) argument in support of the energy actually carried by the gravitational waves at the first American conference on general relativity, GR1, in 1957, 60 years ago: https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/03/07/how-richard-feynman-convinced-the-naysayers-that-gravitational-waves-were-real-60-years-ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/03/07/how-... Regarding the false understanding of the term "scientific theory" by the non-scientific public: "A scientific theory is an explanation of some aspect of the natural world that has been substantiated through repeated experiments or testing [emphasis mine]. But to the average Jane or Joe, a theory is [wrongly] just an idea that lives in someone's head, rather than an explanation rooted in experiment and testing [the actual scientific meaning]." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/just-a-theory-7-misused-science-words/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/just-a-theory-7-m... The gravitation is also "a scientific theory." The gravitational waves are the consequence of the General Relativity, the theory introduced in 1915 by Einstein (102 years ago), but which was also based on the centuries of the previous observations and calculations i.e. all the discoveries of the gravitation (Newton 1687, 330 years ago), electricity, magnetism, electromagnetic waves (more than 200 years ago), etc. "Though these words [like "theory"] may be routinely misunderstood, the real problem, scientists say, is that people don't get rigorous science education in middle school and high school. As a result, the public doesn't understand how scientific explanations are formed, tested and accepted." That I have to write all this is a kind of confirmation of that statement. Just the same, the science of global warming is also based on the scientific observations and valid theories since 1824 (almost 200 years ago): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_scie...

swift 9y ago
People misunderstand this stuff in part because of the failure to make a distinction between a theory (which is often a mathematical description of a system, though this depends on the discipline) and an interpretation (which really is an idea in someone’s head, though often one we have good reason to believe). Scientists mostly work with the former day-to-day, but the general public is mostly interested in the latter. Usually this distinction isn’t really a big deal, but in some cases - quantum mechanics, for example - there’s a big difference between the two, with multiple interesting interpretations to consider. When we don’t make this distinction it creates an opening for people with poor understanding (or, occasionally, bad motives) to nitpick extremely well-established theories on the basis of quibbling about interpretation. I worry about this with respect to climate change specifically: deniers come up with a million reasons that climate change may be partially natural, or that this or that industry may be unfairly maligned, but we can’t get sucked into those debates so much that we forget the big picture painted by the data and models we have.

rocqua 9y ago

The correct term of an idea that hasn't been tested yet is a hypothesis. A `theory' is a full featured explanation. Generally, one requires a theory to be 'accepted as true' by the majority of the scientific community. The nomenclature here really sucks, because colloquially theory and hypothesis are essentially synonyms. However, it makes no sense to talk about the hypothesis of gravity. This discussion comes up most often around claims like "The theory of evolution is just a theory".