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Your reasons for being an asshole don’t change the end result though. It just changes the context around it. Similarly I can understand how an aggressive dog c

Your reasons for being an asshole don’t change the end result though. It just changes the context around it. Similarly I can understand how an aggressive dog came to be (poor training, etc.). That won’t change my opinion that the dog should be put down when it mauls a kid, you know?

falcolas 9y ago
Perhaps it's the dog's owners who should be put down. After all, they'll just get another dog and make it as aggressive as the previous one... Blaming an innocent for how they were cultivated is silly. Especially when those innocents can be rehabilitated. We're getting a little off topic, but this company is just setting up another Rick to take the blame when the train goes off the tracks again.
- cupscale 9y ago
  If you read my other comments, you’ll see that I agree with you completely. That doesn’t mean the dog shouldn’t be put down. It just means there are also other parties at fault.
  - falcolas 9y ago
    It absolutely means the dog shouldn't be put down. Dogs, and more importantly people, can be rehabilitated. All it takes is one person in power to care enough to see to that rehabilitation to transform an aggressive "dick" back into a productive team member.
coldtea 9y ago
>Your reasons for being an asshole don’t change the end result though. It just changes the context around it. No, it very much does. We are not cavemen to assign labels to people based only on external outcomes. Ever courts take emotional state and other circumstances into account.
- cupscale 9y ago
  Sorry, it really really doesn’t. The court might take your emotional state into account when you murder someone, but if they’ve got you dead-to-rights you’re still going to prison. Does Rick deserve to get blacklisted? No. Would I have been incredibly upset if they named the individual? Yes. Did Rick deserve to get fired even though they basically set him up to get fired? Yep, he still does. Did Rick react inappropriately to a horrible situation? Yep, he did.
  - cannonedhamster 9y ago
    Actually no, just because you kill someone doesn't mean you're going to jail. If someone is attacking you and you lash out in self-defense, you're very likely to not go to jail as everyone is expected to be able to defend themselves. It sounds very much like this was a defense mechanism to overwork. The fact that they didn't give him time off before approaching him was kind of crappy in the first place. It should never have come to what it came to.

falcolas 9y ago

Perhaps it's the dog's owners who should be put down. After all, they'll just get another dog and make it as aggressive as the previous one... Blaming an innocent for how they were cultivated is silly. Especially when those innocents can be rehabilitated. We're getting a little off topic, but this company is just setting up another Rick to take the blame when the train goes off the tracks again.

cupscale 9y ago
If you read my other comments, you’ll see that I agree with you completely. That doesn’t mean the dog shouldn’t be put down. It just means there are also other parties at fault.
- falcolas 9y ago
  It absolutely means the dog shouldn't be put down. Dogs, and more importantly people, can be rehabilitated. All it takes is one person in power to care enough to see to that rehabilitation to transform an aggressive "dick" back into a productive team member.

coldtea 9y ago

>Your reasons for being an asshole don’t change the end result though. It just changes the context around it. No, it very much does. We are not cavemen to assign labels to people based only on external outcomes. Ever courts take emotional state and other circumstances into account.

cupscale 9y ago
Sorry, it really really doesn’t. The court might take your emotional state into account when you murder someone, but if they’ve got you dead-to-rights you’re still going to prison. Does Rick deserve to get blacklisted? No. Would I have been incredibly upset if they named the individual? Yes. Did Rick deserve to get fired even though they basically set him up to get fired? Yep, he still does. Did Rick react inappropriately to a horrible situation? Yep, he did.
- cannonedhamster 9y ago
  Actually no, just because you kill someone doesn't mean you're going to jail. If someone is attacking you and you lash out in self-defense, you're very likely to not go to jail as everyone is expected to be able to defend themselves. It sounds very much like this was a defense mechanism to overwork. The fact that they didn't give him time off before approaching him was kind of crappy in the first place. It should never have come to what it came to.