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Facebook Is Looking for Employees with National Security Clearances
- l5870uoo9y 9y agoThe immense power centered in a company like Facebook is a security threat, particular to foreigners given that it is an American company. It would make sense to regulate Facebook like an utility company and regionalize or nationalize the scope of its operations.
- crimsonalucard 9y agoSecurity expertise is different from security clearance.
- sova 9y agoBravo. However, many of the threats we see today are brand new, expertise where everyone starts with 0 may be where we find ourselves for new threats.
- bhhaskin 9y agoWhat? No. That is a very very bad idea. That would end up legitimizing Facebooks power and open the door for absolute government control. It is very simple, if you do not like Facebook then don't use Facebook. Tell your friends and family not to use Facebook. They currently only have any power because we give them power.
- l5870uoo9y 9y agoIt think it is an illusion to think we as individuals can just boycott Facebook. Facebook have become such an integral part of social life for many, that you not only exclude yourself from an web site by leaving it, but an important social institution not to mention years memories in text, pictures and film. Change must come from political action.
- jmnicolas 9y agoIt's becoming harder and harder to deny that Facebook is really CIAbook !
- karljtaylor 9y agoif it were the case, don't you think they'd already tapped our their share of employees with clearances?
- sova 9y agoHaha "I was thinking about applying for a security clearance..." and the reply is "yes we know ... "
- SomeStupidPoint 9y agoIs it? It's also possible that FB, finding itself the victim of continual PSYOPs, is hiring people with backgrounds in that to help defend the company or needs security cleared people to liase with government security teams on that issue. I'm getting sick of the cheap cynicism that fancies simplistic, dramatic interpretations over nuanced, realistic ones. (This isn't to say that FB doesnt collaborate with the government in any number of ways -- just that the parent is a lazy, cheap shot.)
- misterHN 9y agoIf FB is a victim of continual PSYOPs, then how do I sign up to launch more psychological attacks on FB and Zuck? I want the stupid jew crying like a baby hours every day. I want him to spend so much time crying that he is embarrassed to talk about it. I want Zuck brain damaged, I want him afraid of the world, I want him afraid of people, I want him afraid of his family, I want him afraid of his staff, I want him afraid of his investors, I want him afraid of the SEC, I want him afraid of the NYSE...
- grp 9y agoFrom the article: These types of employees are needed when private companies interact and share information back and forth with government agencies.
- josefresco 9y agoDoes that mean if you spend enough money with Facebook they'll send a Facebook rep to work in your office that also has security clearance? New feature! even better than 2016's version.
- bogomipz 9y agoIn case anyone doesn't get the reference, Facebook employees were embedded in Donald's Trump "digital operation's center" during election season: http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/technology/article/Parscale-tells-60-Minutes-Facebook-employees-were-12259557.php http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/technology/article/Pars...
- gizmo385 9y agoWeren't they also embedded in the Clinton campaign? As well as the Obama and Romney campaigns in 2012?
- misterHN 9y agoWill someone please stab Zuck in the abdomen? I want that jew dead.
- mankash666 9y agoI suppose Facebook is picking it's government allies. This puts it at risk of being banned in countries that have strained relationships with said allies, something FB has been able to avoid till now
- sova 9y agoIt is no mystery that FB is a company founded in the US. Why try and pander to everyone when the cultural outflow is so clearly originating from the stateside?
- module0000 9y agoThis isn't what is going on, at least in my opinion. This type of job posting means the government wants facebook to do something. To do "something", facebook needs employeees to perform that work. Whatever work this entails, the government would only like people with XYZ clearance to work on it. As an example, imagine Uncle Sam calls you(the CEO at facebook), and requests a list of dissidents based on ABC criteria, and would like that list and the research that produces it to be handled by people with security clearances. Your next step is to hire people with that security clearance, so they can do the work and you can start sending Uncle Sam invoices.
- ringaroundthetx 9y agoIf you want government contracts, employees of the contractor also have to have the same level of clearance necessary as the government employee. This is non-news.
- jacobra2 9y agoHonest question, what kind of government contracts do you think facebook is bidding on?
- zerotolerance 9y agoI'd guess VR (Oculus) applications
- syshum 9y agoSkynet
- ringaroundthetx 9y agoAny random full stack engineer off the street could apply to any government contract, reply to RFPs, and bid on anything. Everyone is already doing it. You can make $200,000+ a few years out of college as a software engineer if you go the TS-SCI clearance route, from any third tier state school. Oh look and now you can also apply to Facebook with that skillset and clearance. A company with thousands upon thousand of full stack engineers getting work for full stack engineers? Wow sound the alarms lets speculate on what the contract is! And yes, they probably also are trying to leverage their broad infrastructure for department of defense applications.
- rhexs 9y agoFYI the average defense contractor engineer isn't paid nearly that much (as compared to true private industry) and puts in quite a bit of free OT. Senior/PM salaries may get that high in DC but I don't think that is anywhere near the norm. There can be a lot of money made in defense, but it's almost always in the marketing/sales/guys winning the contracts. Most of those guys are ex-government. Along with a disappointing salary, you also get industry leading job instability. Enjoy job cuts every two years -- sign up to be a defense contractor today!
- CalChris 9y agoNational Security Clearance is hyperbole. Security clearance is more accurate. A security clearance is somewhat difficult to get and not especially hard to keep (Snowden). However, having a clearance then opens you up to an entire industry. During tough times (2008) that means jobs will be available: https://www.clearancejobs.com/ https://www.clearancejobs.com/ The background checks are thorough. We've had many in the family (definitely not me), my dad, two of my brothers, two uncles, my ex-girlfriend, brother in law, .... And then we get listed as personal references which is a real pain. A drug conviction will not blackball you but then you have to be completely honest as they will find out and that will blackball you. Debt is a biggie. https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10978.htm https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10978.htm As for the article, I think the inferences people are making are reasonable. Also, given Facebook's scope that they need people with clearances seems reasonable.
- adrice727 9y agoOne thing that I find amusing is that a lot of people are never drug tested as part of the process. I spent ~5 years working for the DoD with a secret security clearance and never had to take one.
- csnewb 9y agoOut of curiosity, is past drug use considered an automatic disqualification? I've never been convicted of literally anything, my record is 100% clean. But let's just say college was a very experimental period of time. I'm interested in getting a security clearance but that's the only major red flag I see that could count against me.
- sova 9y agoGo Facebook. Let's make the internet right the first time
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- Kevin_S 9y agoWhere are the job postings if they exist? I'm interested.
- jonwachob91 9y agoLooks like we won't see them until FB announces more details. Possibly at their senate/house hearing on 1 Nov.