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I think you're thinking about it the wrong way. Following the letter of the law doesn't mean the ride is safer. For example, say the software could say for cert

I think you're thinking about it the wrong way. Following the letter of the law doesn't mean the ride is safer. For example, say the software could say for certain that there is nobody else in an intersection. Thinking about how you would design a new system of traffic rules from scratch, why stop for the stop sign?

saiya-jin 9y ago
... because there is a stop sign? you should stop there nevertheless. major number of motorcycle accidents happen because people feel they have overview of whole situation and don't respect the simple traffic rules, both in cars and on bikes. and yes, based on my 100k+ ridden mostly on european roads, following dead simple traffic rules of these days would prevent many accidents (and deaths). Maybe we would all get to destination 3 minutes late... so what (actually self driving should clean up the roads and especially traffic jams)
Piskvorrr 9y ago
"It's completely safe, there's nobody else at the interse-CRASH Sorry mate, did not see you." You're impressively sure in your assumption that software can be certain that the intersection is empty.
- omarforgotpwd 9y ago
  If the car can't be certain that the intersection is empty, it's going to hit something when it tries to cross regardless. With fully networked cars, sensors in the intersection, and tons of sensors built into the car, the software can be pretty damn sure that the intersection is empty... at least more so than a human can.
  - Piskvorrr 9y ago
    Perhaps. Or you now have to deal with actual obstacles, and with obstacles that are denied or falsely inserted by rogue nodes. "Fully networked" is a mixed bag.
TeMPOraL 9y ago
When there are no human drivers anymore, we can relax the rules on the assumption that self-driving cars will communicate in realtime. Until that is, we need to deal with the fact that a human driver can not say for certain an intersection is empty. A lot of the traffic rules exist to remove the need for having total overview of the situation. That is, if you actually follow them, and can safely assume everyone else follows them too, then you don't need to see what's behind the corner and you can be confident you'll get to your destination safely.

saiya-jin 9y ago

... because there is a stop sign? you should stop there nevertheless. major number of motorcycle accidents happen because people feel they have overview of whole situation and don't respect the simple traffic rules, both in cars and on bikes. and yes, based on my 100k+ ridden mostly on european roads, following dead simple traffic rules of these days would prevent many accidents (and deaths). Maybe we would all get to destination 3 minutes late... so what (actually self driving should clean up the roads and especially traffic jams)

Piskvorrr 9y ago

"It's completely safe, there's nobody else at the interse-CRASH Sorry mate, did not see you." You're impressively sure in your assumption that software can be certain that the intersection is empty.

omarforgotpwd 9y ago
If the car can't be certain that the intersection is empty, it's going to hit something when it tries to cross regardless. With fully networked cars, sensors in the intersection, and tons of sensors built into the car, the software can be pretty damn sure that the intersection is empty... at least more so than a human can.
- Piskvorrr 9y ago
  Perhaps. Or you now have to deal with actual obstacles, and with obstacles that are denied or falsely inserted by rogue nodes. "Fully networked" is a mixed bag.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

When there are no human drivers anymore, we can relax the rules on the assumption that self-driving cars will communicate in realtime. Until that is, we need to deal with the fact that a human driver can not say for certain an intersection is empty. A lot of the traffic rules exist to remove the need for having total overview of the situation. That is, if you actually follow them, and can safely assume everyone else follows them too, then you don't need to see what's behind the corner and you can be confident you'll get to your destination safely.