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> But it should absolutely feel bad for the (not insignificant) portion of its prosperity that was a result of that history. And it should feel great for the a
by dmpk2k 9y ago
> But it should absolutely feel bad for the (not insignificant) portion of its prosperity that was a result of that history.
And it should feel great for the amazing things it has done for the world as well, as any graph of poverty and disease since the 1700s shows.
And therein lies the rub: when was the last time you heard someone thank the West? It is likely 4 out of 5 people alive today wouldn't be if it weren't for the West. Of the remainder, 94% would live in absolute poverty, instead of the current 10%. They'd live at most 40 years, instead of 70+. They'd be anywhere from 300-1200x more likely to be starving. Instead of almost everyone reaching old age, 1/3 - 1/2 of all children would die of various causes. And so on, and so on, and so on.
And so on. The list just doesn't end. The past was hellish to the modern eye. I wonder why!
Focussing only on the bad, and completely ignoring the good, is intellectually dishonest and betrays a complete lack of perspective.
> "Okay, everything's fair now."
Except the world would be objectively far worse off if it wasn't for those crooked hands. See above.
- ethbro 9y agoYou're supposing an alternative where it was only possible for the West to have created these inventions you allude to. While there have been thesises that only Great Britain possessed the necessary ingredients for steam power and industrialization, that argument isn't universally held. And I refuse to believe that this applies to every invention, especially as world population increased.
- dmpk2k 9y agoYou're right, but in the current timeframe? That's one hell of a stretch. I'll go Bayesian on this one. And so: thanks West!
- intended 9y agoEh? If time frame was the criteria we could Just start wars again. Remove all the people except the victors and chattel. And there’s billions who never got a chance to ever get medicine. Billions more never born or able to live with a fighting chance because the entire social structure was yanked out, root and branch.