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A cure for Hacker News overload

121 points by epi0Bauqu 16y ago

jacquesm 16y ago
Neat, see also: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1514037 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1514037
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pclark 16y ago
this is really really nicely designed - nice one.
duck 16y ago
Great solution and glad to see how you expanded it to other thresholds. I think this might be the best automated way to track the best of Hacker News (of course I think my http://www.hackernewsletter.com http://www.hackernewsletter.com is another great way with more of an non-automated feel + other content.)
empire29 16y ago
Many thanks! I've added the feeds to Pulse on my iPad and its working like a charm!
ritonlajoie 16y ago
Very good project. I would love to see, in the rss feed, the real article (the HN text or the link the story points to). This would be great so that we don't have to get out of google reader to actually read the article. Example : http://toadjaw.com/article?url=http://steveblank.com/2010/07/26/you-cant-take-it-with-you/ http://toadjaw.com/article?url=http://steveblank.com/2010/07... Hacker News reader for mobiles, created by toadjaw, is using a scrapping script which will extract nicely the article from the linked webpage.
thaumaturgy 16y ago
This may actually prompt me to keep a Twitter client open again (for the first time in a year). Thanks!
Hexstream 16y ago
A noprocrast of 3 days works great for me!
mark_l_watson 16y ago
Thanks, I added the 50 score filter feed to Google reader and it works well for me so far.
jashmenn 16y ago
Privacy issues aside, I'd love a co-occurring votes / collaborative filtering based approach to HN. The problem here is that a fixed threshold of votes is a coarse estimation of quality and relevance. Imagine a system where each HN vote is weighted according to your similarity to that voter. That way a vote by people with whom I have very little in common would also be worth very little to me. I'd love to view a HN where I don't see the highly-voted Gruber/Apple/Facebook posts but I still see the stuff about Clojure, Steve Blank, and patio11.
- jmillerinc 16y ago
  You can implement what you want with simple keyword & url filtering.
  - w1ntermute 16y ago
    Speaking of this, does anyone know of a good RSS filter? By that I mean a service to which you give a link to an RSS feed and provide certain filters, and they will provide a link to a modified version of the feed that they host themselves.
    - barrkel 16y ago
      Yahoo Pipes is the closest thing I know to that. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ Here's a screenshot of one of mine http://imgur.com/NLOkM.png http://imgur.com/NLOkM.png
    - seancron 16y ago
      Check out http://feedrinse.com/ http://feedrinse.com/
      - w1ntermute 16y ago
        Awesome, this is exactly what I wanted! By filtering out all the Apple/iPhone/iPad-related crap, I'll probably be able to cut the number of new items from tech blogs in half.
w1ntermute 16y ago
Still holding out for a version that uses Readability to include the full linked article directly in the feed :)
Semiapies 16y ago
Part of why I like HN is that I don't have a big queue of things to read, unlike my RSS feeds. I can skim without feeling that I'm missing something.
samd 16y ago
I'd like a Best of Hacker News that, like Best of Reddit, links to exceptionally interesting comments. The comments on HN are usually far more interesting than the stories, and often interesting comments are attached to uninteresting stories.
- michael_scheibe 16y ago
  Well, there is a Best of Hacker News page, but it shows the best submissions of the past few days rather than the best comments. http://news.ycombinator.com/best http://news.ycombinator.com/best
  - s-phi-nl 16y ago
    There is also a best comments page at http://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments http://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments.
samratjp 16y ago
Diff it! Say we snap a cache frequently either centrally or locally. It would be so much easier to just diff the HN cache throughout each session with the last central cache or local cache to see what has changed significantly by highlighting or something.
- adrianwaj 16y ago
  I was thinking of adding that as a feature to http://hackerbra.in http://hackerbra.in. Currently, news is every 2hrs, ask 5hrs, best 11hrs. The site tells you if you've already viewed the current snapshot, but actually highlighting the new items since the last snapshot would be an interesting feature. Also, when stored, having a tweet go out with the number of new items for that snapshot could be useful.
jcurbo 16y ago
Thanks a lot, this was bugging me the other day and I was starting to brainstorm how I could filter things. This is perfect!
espinchi 16y ago
I prefer http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/ http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/: that's the top 10 articles of the previous day. Reading them one day late is not too bad for me, and it helps procrastinate less: it has put an end on my "let's see if there's something new". Still this is a very good alternative, which I'll probably end up trying :)
- adrianwaj 16y ago
  If you're not time bound to the absolute latest, also check out the new http://hackerbra.in http://hackerbra.in - it will shade down the snapshots you've already seen in its history
seanmcdonnell 16y ago
This is awesome, I love it. However, is anyone else concerned that the driver seat of HN is essentially being handed over to new users as more advanced users switch to services like this or "HN daily" or even the "/best" page? It seems like the people that don't know anything exists beyond the front page will become the only ones left to do the work of curating content. (just speculating, nothing against new users I haven't been here that long myself...)
petercooper 16y ago
As long as only a minority of users use this, great. Otherwise, if everyone's reading through things like this, WTF is voting the stories up in the first place? Part of what makes HN good is that most people hit the site and help with the voting. The more people who move away to reading HN remotely or through feeds.. the worse the voting situation gets.
- jmillerinc 16y ago
  Agreed, but I don't think there's much to worry about as it stands. PG said newsyc currently gets 60,000 unique visitors per day, and the # of ppl following these twitter feeds is barely 1% of that.
  - petercooper 16y ago
    PG said newsyc currently gets 60,000 unique visitors per day, and the # of ppl following these twitter feeds is barely 1% of that. Though that doesn't say much to what percentage of the 60,000 are even users or logged in.. I suspect it's not a high percentage.
dwynings 16y ago
Kudos for adding the user's Twitter username. Really impressive!
jonny_noog 16y ago
@newsyc20 includes links to the story itself and the Hacker News comment page for that story. Sold! Not having links to the comments when following @newsycombinator always perturbed me.
photon_off 16y ago
Dapper + Yahoo Pipes = Same result, allowing customizable score filter, customizable sorting, customizable date thresholds, etc. In about 30 minutes. If a single person replies to this comment, I'll implement it. EDIT: T+46: As promised, but without the sorting or date threshold. Sorry. Change the parameters to meet your needs. Supports min/max comments/points. Sorts by points DESC. Go play with the pipe if you want :) Apologies that it doesn't tweet you. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=ceb3c855a339606d3c57489f4b0a4206&_render=rss&max_comments=10000&max_points=10000&min_comments=20&min_points=20 http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=ceb3c855a339606d3c...
- megablast 16y ago
  sure, why not. Not sure what dapper is required for, couldn't you doo this all in pipes? I use pipes for a number of my applications, great stuff yahoo.
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121 points by epi0Bauqu 16y ago

jacquesm 16y ago

Neat, see also: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1514037 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1514037

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pclark 16y ago

this is really really nicely designed - nice one.

duck 16y ago

Great solution and glad to see how you expanded it to other thresholds. I think this might be the best automated way to track the best of Hacker News (of course I think my http://www.hackernewsletter.com http://www.hackernewsletter.com is another great way with more of an non-automated feel + other content.)

empire29 16y ago

Many thanks! I've added the feeds to Pulse on my iPad and its working like a charm!

ritonlajoie 16y ago

Very good project. I would love to see, in the rss feed, the real article (the HN text or the link the story points to). This would be great so that we don't have to get out of google reader to actually read the article. Example : http://toadjaw.com/article?url=http://steveblank.com/2010/07/26/you-cant-take-it-with-you/ http://toadjaw.com/article?url=http://steveblank.com/2010/07... Hacker News reader for mobiles, created by toadjaw, is using a scrapping script which will extract nicely the article from the linked webpage.

thaumaturgy 16y ago

This may actually prompt me to keep a Twitter client open again (for the first time in a year). Thanks!

Hexstream 16y ago

A noprocrast of 3 days works great for me!

mark_l_watson 16y ago

Thanks, I added the 50 score filter feed to Google reader and it works well for me so far.

jashmenn 16y ago

Privacy issues aside, I'd love a co-occurring votes / collaborative filtering based approach to HN. The problem here is that a fixed threshold of votes is a coarse estimation of quality and relevance. Imagine a system where each HN vote is weighted according to your similarity to that voter. That way a vote by people with whom I have very little in common would also be worth very little to me. I'd love to view a HN where I don't see the highly-voted Gruber/Apple/Facebook posts but I still see the stuff about Clojure, Steve Blank, and patio11.

jmillerinc 16y ago
You can implement what you want with simple keyword & url filtering.
- w1ntermute 16y ago
  Speaking of this, does anyone know of a good RSS filter? By that I mean a service to which you give a link to an RSS feed and provide certain filters, and they will provide a link to a modified version of the feed that they host themselves.
  - barrkel 16y ago
    Yahoo Pipes is the closest thing I know to that. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ Here's a screenshot of one of mine http://imgur.com/NLOkM.png http://imgur.com/NLOkM.png
  - seancron 16y ago
    Check out http://feedrinse.com/ http://feedrinse.com/
    - w1ntermute 16y ago
      Awesome, this is exactly what I wanted! By filtering out all the Apple/iPhone/iPad-related crap, I'll probably be able to cut the number of new items from tech blogs in half.

w1ntermute 16y ago

Still holding out for a version that uses Readability to include the full linked article directly in the feed :)

Semiapies 16y ago

Part of why I like HN is that I don't have a big queue of things to read, unlike my RSS feeds. I can skim without feeling that I'm missing something.

samd 16y ago

I'd like a Best of Hacker News that, like Best of Reddit, links to exceptionally interesting comments. The comments on HN are usually far more interesting than the stories, and often interesting comments are attached to uninteresting stories.

michael_scheibe 16y ago
Well, there is a Best of Hacker News page, but it shows the best submissions of the past few days rather than the best comments. http://news.ycombinator.com/best http://news.ycombinator.com/best
- s-phi-nl 16y ago
  There is also a best comments page at http://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments http://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments.

samratjp 16y ago

Diff it! Say we snap a cache frequently either centrally or locally. It would be so much easier to just diff the HN cache throughout each session with the last central cache or local cache to see what has changed significantly by highlighting or something.

adrianwaj 16y ago
I was thinking of adding that as a feature to http://hackerbra.in http://hackerbra.in. Currently, news is every 2hrs, ask 5hrs, best 11hrs. The site tells you if you've already viewed the current snapshot, but actually highlighting the new items since the last snapshot would be an interesting feature. Also, when stored, having a tweet go out with the number of new items for that snapshot could be useful.

jcurbo 16y ago

Thanks a lot, this was bugging me the other day and I was starting to brainstorm how I could filter things. This is perfect!

espinchi 16y ago

I prefer http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/ http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/: that's the top 10 articles of the previous day. Reading them one day late is not too bad for me, and it helps procrastinate less: it has put an end on my "let's see if there's something new". Still this is a very good alternative, which I'll probably end up trying :)

adrianwaj 16y ago
If you're not time bound to the absolute latest, also check out the new http://hackerbra.in http://hackerbra.in - it will shade down the snapshots you've already seen in its history

seanmcdonnell 16y ago

This is awesome, I love it. However, is anyone else concerned that the driver seat of HN is essentially being handed over to new users as more advanced users switch to services like this or "HN daily" or even the "/best" page? It seems like the people that don't know anything exists beyond the front page will become the only ones left to do the work of curating content. (just speculating, nothing against new users I haven't been here that long myself...)

petercooper 16y ago

As long as only a minority of users use this, great. Otherwise, if everyone's reading through things like this, WTF is voting the stories up in the first place? Part of what makes HN good is that most people hit the site and help with the voting. The more people who move away to reading HN remotely or through feeds.. the worse the voting situation gets.

jmillerinc 16y ago
Agreed, but I don't think there's much to worry about as it stands. PG said newsyc currently gets 60,000 unique visitors per day, and the # of ppl following these twitter feeds is barely 1% of that.
- petercooper 16y ago
  PG said newsyc currently gets 60,000 unique visitors per day, and the # of ppl following these twitter feeds is barely 1% of that. Though that doesn't say much to what percentage of the 60,000 are even users or logged in.. I suspect it's not a high percentage.

dwynings 16y ago

Kudos for adding the user's Twitter username. Really impressive!

jonny_noog 16y ago

@newsyc20 includes links to the story itself and the Hacker News comment page for that story. Sold! Not having links to the comments when following @newsycombinator always perturbed me.

photon_off 16y ago

Dapper + Yahoo Pipes = Same result, allowing customizable score filter, customizable sorting, customizable date thresholds, etc. In about 30 minutes. If a single person replies to this comment, I'll implement it. EDIT: T+46: As promised, but without the sorting or date threshold. Sorry. Change the parameters to meet your needs. Supports min/max comments/points. Sorts by points DESC. Go play with the pipe if you want :) Apologies that it doesn't tweet you. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=ceb3c855a339606d3c57489f4b0a4206&_render=rss&max_comments=10000&max_points=10000&min_comments=20&min_points=20 http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=ceb3c855a339606d3c...

megablast 16y ago
sure, why not. Not sure what dapper is required for, couldn't you doo this all in pipes? I use pipes for a number of my applications, great stuff yahoo.
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