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But those two instances are not equivalent. As a huge fan of public health care, from a country that has it, and has deep experience with the health care system

But those two instances are not equivalent. As a huge fan of public health care, from a country that has it, and has deep experience with the health care system, its a known fact that a public health system will establish a panel of experts to determine best treatment for a schedule of illnesses, in some cases there may be no "best option" for a terminal illness, so none is prescribed - hence "death panels" while emotive and a long bow to draw, at least in some sense accurate. But at the least these claims should be rebuked. I would challenge that Damore's memo in no way states anything close to "women are biologically unfit for tech work", something that was widely claimed. And instead said that reducing populations to averages to make such spurious claims is damaging, and that there maybe some biological root that explains part of the gap in engagement in tech between men and women that cause fewer women to want to join. So in this case, yes what was published against Damore, by media companies, was an "outright lie" and should be legally punished.

pfranz 9y ago
That healthcare debate in the U.S. never had a single-payer program. For awhile it had a government option that was eliminated before the law passed. A "death panel [of] bureaucrats"[1] would be no more true after the ACA as it was before for insurance companies. The people who were using the Death Panel rallying cry were specifically talking about requiring "Medicare to pay for some end-of-life planning counseling sessions with a health care practitioner." This is different than what you're talking about and neither could describe that legislation as creating government death panels. It got many awards for "lie of the year." I also tried searching for your widely claimed quote > No results found for "women are biologically unfit for tech work". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel#Palin.27s_initial_statement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel#Palin.27s_initial_...
- marcoperaza 9y ago
  >I also tried searching for your widely claimed quote Didn't try hard enough. "Aren't biologically fit" is the same as "biologically unfit" and I am pretty certain I remember the exact latter phrase appearing on the CNN home page, which is transient and wouldn't show up on search results anyway. https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/894904419766108161 https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/894904419766108161 "Google CEO cuts vacation short to address controversial memo that argued women aren't biologically fit for tech jobs"

pfranz 9y ago

That healthcare debate in the U.S. never had a single-payer program. For awhile it had a government option that was eliminated before the law passed. A "death panel [of] bureaucrats"[1] would be no more true after the ACA as it was before for insurance companies. The people who were using the Death Panel rallying cry were specifically talking about requiring "Medicare to pay for some end-of-life planning counseling sessions with a health care practitioner." This is different than what you're talking about and neither could describe that legislation as creating government death panels. It got many awards for "lie of the year." I also tried searching for your widely claimed quote > No results found for "women are biologically unfit for tech work". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel#Palin.27s_initial_statement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel#Palin.27s_initial_...

marcoperaza 9y ago
>I also tried searching for your widely claimed quote Didn't try hard enough. "Aren't biologically fit" is the same as "biologically unfit" and I am pretty certain I remember the exact latter phrase appearing on the CNN home page, which is transient and wouldn't show up on search results anyway. https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/894904419766108161 https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/894904419766108161 "Google CEO cuts vacation short to address controversial memo that argued women aren't biologically fit for tech jobs"