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> That's a failure of the manager, not the programmer. The good programmers, the ones who enjoy their work, will choose a complicated but beautiful path, will c

> That's a failure of the manager, not the programmer. The good programmers, the ones who enjoy their work, will choose a complicated but beautiful path, will choose to make a configurable workflow whose configuration is itself configurable in LISP. It's the manager job to know that the workflow can be hard-coded and then avoid complexity by the love of complexity (good programmers love complexity solved by intricate and beautiful code). I see this as a programmer responsibility... how is the manager even supposed to know whether it's hard-codeable? The trouble is often that the programmer doesn't get enough information to make this decision, but that's a different story.

mythrwy 9y ago
The buck stops with the manager. Every time. Only a poor carpenter blames his tools and people are a managers tools. If a carpenter doesn't pay attention and a sharp saw cuts their hand off or ruins an expensive piece of wood maybe they need training in how to run saws. Or perhaps they just need less powerful saws until they get more experience. Management is a lot more than going to meetings and ordering people around. The ability to successfully staff and orchestrate a project is no small skill and one can't just jump in and expect success. Lot of people think they can do it, but there are very few really good managers in my experience. Most are hacks who can't actually do the job and don't even understand what it entails. As evidenced by the article.
mannykannot 9y ago
> good programmers love complexity solved by intricate and beautiful code. I can't speak for good programmers, but while I admire elegant and insightful solutions where possible, for the other 99% of the cases I prefer the simplest effective solution (and with simple definitions of 'simple').

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> That's a failure of the manager, not the programmer. The good programmers, the ones who enjoy their work, will choose a complicated but beautiful path, will c

by projektir 9y ago

mythrwy 9y ago
The buck stops with the manager. Every time. Only a poor carpenter blames his tools and people are a managers tools. If a carpenter doesn't pay attention and a sharp saw cuts their hand off or ruins an expensive piece of wood maybe they need training in how to run saws. Or perhaps they just need less powerful saws until they get more experience. Management is a lot more than going to meetings and ordering people around. The ability to successfully staff and orchestrate a project is no small skill and one can't just jump in and expect success. Lot of people think they can do it, but there are very few really good managers in my experience. Most are hacks who can't actually do the job and don't even understand what it entails. As evidenced by the article.
mannykannot 9y ago
> good programmers love complexity solved by intricate and beautiful code. I can't speak for good programmers, but while I admire elegant and insightful solutions where possible, for the other 99% of the cases I prefer the simplest effective solution (and with simple definitions of 'simple').