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> For the people located in areas where jobs have entirely vanished you would have to relocate the population but that goes against the dream. Relocate them wh

by erentz 9y ago

> For the people located in areas where jobs have entirely vanished you would have to relocate the population but that goes against the dream. Relocate them where? American's are incredibly mobile in my experience, from going to college in another state, to having families sprawled across different states. If it were as simple as moving, people would be doing it. > You could cut regulations in order to entice companies to come back... Times have changed and we need to adjust to it. USA Inc makes a huge amount of money. In the past that required a lot of people in the workforce. Today it doesn't require nearly as many but we're making even more money! So the solution is not to remove regulation to have more people taken advantage of in dangerous factories and so we can pollute our environment. That does not benefit the Americans who live here who do not have jobs. We need to come to an acceptance of the changing times and decide what it means to still have a society. Either we agree that we (USA Inc) make more than enough money for everyone in the country to have a good life (which we do), and work out the redistribution problem (which could take many forms), or we continue as we are with a whole lot of fellow citizens suffering needlessly.

pxeboot 9y ago
The percentage of people moving even relatively short distances has actually gone down significantly in the past several decades. https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2017/01/mover-rate.html?cid=17mover-rate https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2017/...
- kabulykos 9y ago
  While there's definitely signs of geographic stickiness nowadays, I wish someone would age-adjust those statistics — above a certain age people tend not to move at all, and we have way more people above a certain age nowadays.
  - TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
    As a young person, I refuse to move to a bigger city than where I'm at. I've got a wife who has a career, which makes moving incredibly difficult. I also don't want to move farther away from my family and go to a high cost-of-living city just so that major corporations can take advantage of the population density to have a deleveraged work force.
neuro_imager 9y ago
"We need to come to an acceptance of the changing times and decide what it means to still have a society. Either we agree that we (USA Inc) make more than enough money for everyone in the country to have a good life (which we do), and work out the redistribution problem (which could take many forms), or we continue as we are with a whole lot of fellow citizens suffering needlessly." As a foreigner living in the USA I'm sad to say that I both agree wholeheartedly with this comment and realise that it can never come to pass. The entire political landscape of the US is built on ideological caricatures like the strong, independent, free American and the demon of socialism (or anything that even vaguely represents it). The unfortunate consequence of this is a society sorely lacking in social concern with massive impediments to developing core infrastructure. Of course this benefits the ruling class who don't have to spend money on developing facilities that could benefit the lives of Americans.
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by erentz 9y ago

pxeboot 9y ago

The percentage of people moving even relatively short distances has actually gone down significantly in the past several decades. https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2017/01/mover-rate.html?cid=17mover-rate https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2017/...

kabulykos 9y ago
While there's definitely signs of geographic stickiness nowadays, I wish someone would age-adjust those statistics — above a certain age people tend not to move at all, and we have way more people above a certain age nowadays.
- TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
  As a young person, I refuse to move to a bigger city than where I'm at. I've got a wife who has a career, which makes moving incredibly difficult. I also don't want to move farther away from my family and go to a high cost-of-living city just so that major corporations can take advantage of the population density to have a deleveraged work force.

neuro_imager 9y ago

"We need to come to an acceptance of the changing times and decide what it means to still have a society. Either we agree that we (USA Inc) make more than enough money for everyone in the country to have a good life (which we do), and work out the redistribution problem (which could take many forms), or we continue as we are with a whole lot of fellow citizens suffering needlessly." As a foreigner living in the USA I'm sad to say that I both agree wholeheartedly with this comment and realise that it can never come to pass. The entire political landscape of the US is built on ideological caricatures like the strong, independent, free American and the demon of socialism (or anything that even vaguely represents it). The unfortunate consequence of this is a society sorely lacking in social concern with massive impediments to developing core infrastructure. Of course this benefits the ruling class who don't have to spend money on developing facilities that could benefit the lives of Americans.

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