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Reminder that both Mac OS and Windows include blue light reducing as a built-in feature. In case you don't like installing applications for something the OS alr
by internet2000 9y ago
Reminder that both Mac OS and Windows include blue light reducing as a built-in feature. In case you don't like installing applications for something the OS already does like me.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207513 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207513
https://www.howtogeek.com/302186/how-to-enable-night-light-on-windows-10/ https://www.howtogeek.com/302186/how-to-enable-night-light-o...
- dingo_bat 9y agoAnd both of them work better than flux and have more customization options. There's literally no reason for flux to exist anymore. Edit: also android and ios
- Elidrake42 9y agoI can't speak for the Windows implementation, but this is far from true on the Mac OS 'Nightshift' implementation. Nightshift won't get nearly as warm as I prefer it, misses the Hue integration, misses having multiple levels for particular times of the day, general quick disable, disable by application, disable when in full-screen application... The list goes on. There are plenty of reasons to still be using Flux on Mac.
- Razengan 9y ago> Nightshift won't get nearly as warm as I prefer it Configurable in System Preferences -> Displays. > general quick disable There’s a toggle in the Notification Center, at the top (may have to scroll/pull down.)
- hn_throwaway_99 9y ago>> Nightshift won't get nearly as warm as I prefer it > Configurable in System Preferences -> Displays. The whole problem is that it isn't configurable to get as warm as many people (myself included) prefer.
- shawnz 9y agoThe only options in the Windows implementation are "colour temperature at night", "on time" and "off time". So that's objectively much less customizable than flux.
- angrydev 9y agoTried to switch from Flux to Windows 10 nightlight, was awful. If you wake your computer from sleep after sunset, nightlight doesn’t activate automatically. Been a known issue since they released it.
- dingo_bat 9y agoFixed in creator's update.
- Scramblejams 9y agoNope nope nope. The built-in options still emit too much blue for my taste.
- icebraining 9y agoAndroid might have it, but Android users certainly don't. Nougat and Oreo combined are still under 20%.
- dingo_bat 9y agoDoesn't matter. OEMs have included it in MM too.
- icebraining 9y agoOh. Mine doesn't, so I hadn't realize that.
- DesertBattery 9y agoDon't know about other OEMs but Xiaomi's implementation is awful.
- azdle 9y agoAlso built into Gnome since 3.24: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/gnome-night-light-blue-light-filter-linux http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/gnome-night-light-blue-li...
- Ruud-v-A 9y agoYes, I’ve been happily using this feature since it was introduced.
- sandGorgon 9y agoWorks brilliantly on Fedora.
- wereHamster 9y ago> Night Shift requires macOS Sierra 10.12.4 [...] Not everybody is on Sierra yet. My work laptop still runs El Capitan.
- Razengan 9y agoCurious; apart from not needing any of the new features in Sierra+, and not wanting to risk bricking your primary work machine, what’s preventing you from upgrading?
- skinnymuch 9y agoI guess the counter question is, why upgrade? I'm usually a version or two behind on Mac and iOS. The features added are usually minor. Never seems to be a reason to upgrade quickly.
- wereHamster 9y agoI have work to do at $dayjob and for that purpose the laptop works just fine. I don't want to risk any upgrade, especially after I heard that some tools and applications I use don't work well under High Sierra.
- _arvin 9y agoNot for all models though. My 2010 MBP can't use Night Shift, for example.
- Fnoord 9y agoMy MBP 2010 works just fine with Night Shift.
- _arvin 9y agoIs that right? Apple's own website says it doesn't. Aside from that, I can confirm it doesn't show up as an option on my Mac. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207513 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207513 MacBook models from early 2015 or later MacBook Air models from mid 2012 or later MacBook Pro models from mid 2012 or later So, what's the deal? How's it working on yours?
- gottebp 9y agoI use F.lux because they are the little guy, and first to this market by a long shot. Getting Sherlocked [1] by the big players after years of original work on a project is terrible. Lots of small businesses (or projects for that matter) is much preferable to a handful of large ones blatantly cloning ideas they did not originate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(software)
- dannyw 9y agoShould OS makers not improve their OS based on what’s out there in the market, and purposefully harm the user experience then? Night Shift is a simple concept and there’s not a huge amount of different ways to do it. It’s something I consider analogous to copy and paste, a trashcan, or a clock in your dock.
- toomuchtodo 9y agoThe chance of flux going away is much less than Apple suddenly deciding "We don't want to offer this feature anymore."
- pwinnski 9y agoHistory suggests this is not correct. Long-time Mac users have a term for this: Sherlocking[0] It seems far more likely that a company without an obvious business plan might run out of money trying to sell software that seems to be an unnecessary duplication of features built in to the OS than for Apple to eliminate a feature they've only recently introduced and promoted. I'm hoping neither happen, and I wish the f.lux team the best, but I definitely think you have the odds the wrong way around. [0] https://carpeaqua.com/2013/10/18/stop-sherlocking-yourself/ https://carpeaqua.com/2013/10/18/stop-sherlocking-yourself/
- skinnymuch 9y agoFlux is on version 4 and has been around for a very long time. Dare I say a decade now? Apple probably barely cares about the feature. You think they're going to iterate on it close to as much as Flux? History certainly does not show that.
- hn_throwaway_99 9y agoI have been using f.lux for years, and was happy that when NightShift became available that I could just use it. The short of it is that, for me at least, NightShift is almost useless. It simply does not get red or dim enough if I'm reading right before bed. Same thing goes for Android, which is why I have Twilight still installed there. Seems like such an easy option to make the color temperature more customizable, so I think it sucks that Apple didn't do this.
- eat_veggies 9y agoI've had better experience with CF.lumen on Android (you need root though) because it's more of a tint than an overlay, so blacks stay black and not dark red like with Twilight.
- reificator 9y agoThat's why I've always disliked Twilight! I couldn't put my finger on it, I thought it was just the color choice. Thanks for the recommendation!
- skrebbel 9y agoI must admit I stopped using f.lux when Windows 10 came with Night Light, however this update is making me reconsider. I really like the wake-up-time idea, as well as considering "early evening" a separate time interval for which a color temperature is stored.
- nasredin 9y agoOnly the latest version include this feature. If you use Windows 7 you have to go third-party. The older iOS also doesn't have it.
- Something1234 9y agoIt's also in GNOME3, or at least I think it is. I got it when I installed the GNOME group on arch via pacman.
- skinnymuch 9y agoMacOS's feature at least is far weaker than Flux by a longshot. It doesn't tint the colors nearly enough. Sure the OS technically does what Flux does, but when the third Parth app is so much better, it makes sense to use it. Also Flux came out far before. And no thank you or notice has been given to them by the big guys. For that reason alone I'd continue to use Flux.