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Is Psilocybin and/or Ayahuasaca and/or any other DMT source legal anywhere in the world? I would expect at least _some_ places make it legal, possibly have hund

Is Psilocybin and/or Ayahuasaca and/or any other DMT source legal anywhere in the world? I would expect at least _some_ places make it legal, possibly have hundreds/thousands of years of experience that might be interesting to read alongside modern studies.

atom-morgan 9y ago
I believe Psilocybin is legal enough (decriminalized?) to purchase in Amsterdam right? I remember watching a Vice piece on truffles.
- hellofunk 9y ago
  Mushrooms were made illegal in the netherlands a few years ago, but "magic truffles" are a loophole in the law because they are not mushrooms, so they are still for sale. It's a bid of a shady distinction.
- anythingnonidin 9y ago
  See also: https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends (Magic truffle experience retreat in Amsterdam)
noahdesu 9y ago
I believe that Psilocybin is legal in Jamaica, see https://www.mycomeditations.com/ https://www.mycomeditations.com/. Since it would seem that large numbers of people visit South America to attend Ayahuasaca retreats, one may assume it is legal there. And some religious exemptions exist for both Ayahuasaca and Peyote in the U.S., but even this may be a bit fuzzy as this certainly isn't widely advertised. One may also purchase legally, in all but a few U.S. states, Psilocybin spores; they become illegal once grown.
- alpine_glass 9y ago
  I've attended a couple ayahuasca ceremonies in the US. The first was very a peaceful affair. The second was not. There was yelling, screaming, the energy was all over the place. At moments, it felt very chaotic, like the top was going to blow off the whole thing. The facilitators (shamans) did an amazing job of holding things together, but that doesn't mean that I didn't experience some very intense waves of paranoia while all of this was going on. We were in a somewhat secluded place, but maybe not secluded enough to have made the screams inaudible to our closest neighbor. It was a rough evening for everyone.
anythingnonidin 9y ago
> It is our understanding that magic truffles are legal in the Netherlands, and in Jamaica magic mushrooms are either outright legal or the laws don’t seem to be enforced. Magic truffles contain psilocybin, the same as magic mushrooms - they are the part that grows below ground. https://tripsafe.org/shrooms/#12-psilocybin-is-legal-in-some-countries-and-companies-offer-paid-retreats-for-therapeutic-psychedelic-sessions https://tripsafe.org/shrooms/#12-psilocybin-is-legal-in-some... The best seeming retreats are: https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends and https://www.mycomeditations.com/ https://www.mycomeditations.com/
sigotirandolas 9y ago
Not really, but there are a lot of “research chemicals” (= mostly unregulated drugs) that are serotonin receptor agonists like those. Some like 4-AcO-DMT and 1P-LSD seem to be almost identical to the classics.

atom-morgan 9y ago

I believe Psilocybin is legal enough (decriminalized?) to purchase in Amsterdam right? I remember watching a Vice piece on truffles.

hellofunk 9y ago
Mushrooms were made illegal in the netherlands a few years ago, but "magic truffles" are a loophole in the law because they are not mushrooms, so they are still for sale. It's a bid of a shady distinction.
anythingnonidin 9y ago
See also: https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends (Magic truffle experience retreat in Amsterdam)

noahdesu 9y ago

I believe that Psilocybin is legal in Jamaica, see https://www.mycomeditations.com/ https://www.mycomeditations.com/. Since it would seem that large numbers of people visit South America to attend Ayahuasaca retreats, one may assume it is legal there. And some religious exemptions exist for both Ayahuasaca and Peyote in the U.S., but even this may be a bit fuzzy as this certainly isn't widely advertised. One may also purchase legally, in all but a few U.S. states, Psilocybin spores; they become illegal once grown.

alpine_glass 9y ago
I've attended a couple ayahuasca ceremonies in the US. The first was very a peaceful affair. The second was not. There was yelling, screaming, the energy was all over the place. At moments, it felt very chaotic, like the top was going to blow off the whole thing. The facilitators (shamans) did an amazing job of holding things together, but that doesn't mean that I didn't experience some very intense waves of paranoia while all of this was going on. We were in a somewhat secluded place, but maybe not secluded enough to have made the screams inaudible to our closest neighbor. It was a rough evening for everyone.

anythingnonidin 9y ago

> It is our understanding that magic truffles are legal in the Netherlands, and in Jamaica magic mushrooms are either outright legal or the laws don’t seem to be enforced. Magic truffles contain psilocybin, the same as magic mushrooms - they are the part that grows below ground. https://tripsafe.org/shrooms/#12-psilocybin-is-legal-in-some-countries-and-companies-offer-paid-retreats-for-therapeutic-psychedelic-sessions https://tripsafe.org/shrooms/#12-psilocybin-is-legal-in-some... The best seeming retreats are: https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends https://psychedelicsociety.org.uk/experience-weekends and https://www.mycomeditations.com/ https://www.mycomeditations.com/

sigotirandolas 9y ago

Not really, but there are a lot of “research chemicals” (= mostly unregulated drugs) that are serotonin receptor agonists like those. Some like 4-AcO-DMT and 1P-LSD seem to be almost identical to the classics.