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That's a curious way to phrase "Congratulations on making a company which has sold several hundred million dollars of software." I don't get why HN, of all the
by patio11 9y ago
That's a curious way to phrase "Congratulations on making a company which has sold several hundred million dollars of software."
I don't get why HN, of all the places in the world, would seek to tear down software companies, literally started on HN, which produce a service that people love and which achieve a successful outcome for all concerned.
I also don't think we should teach people that a middlebrow dismissal passes for financial analysis, so some toy math using their public data: they report ~$106 million in charity. Their users probably don't alter their split materially, so if one models their bundles as their main revenue source (which, knowing nothing about the internals of the business, I would), that implies $106M / .15 = $700M in gross sales. Their cut of that is 20%, or ~$140M over the lifetime of the company. I model them as being a rather briskly growing business, so I'd estimate last year's revenues in the ~$30 million range. I'd also estimate probably ~60% margins.
You want the lower on a $47 million acquisition price on a quickly growing software company with $30 million a year in revenue? Yeah, I'll take the upper. Not a hard call. This was clearly a very successful outcome for all concerned.
[Edit to add: Above paragraph is incorrect because I misread the parent as raising at a valuation of $4.7M. If they raised $4.7 million the valuation was probably ~$20M. Do I still think 10x is plausible on that? Plausible, not nearly a given.]
Disclaimers: no non-public information used above, no commercial relationship, although I did pitch them on a consulting gig once. I have paid them a few hundred dollars over the years for video games.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoI didn't read GP's comment as tearing down. Also, I learned something new - didn't realize HB went through YC, or that it even was VC-funded. > I don't get why HN, of all the places in the world, would seek to tear down software companies, literally started on HN, which produce a service that people love and which achieve a successful outcome for all concerned. Well, the company got bought by a third party with dubious reputation, which will most likely lead to "service that people love" deteriorating and possibly getting cancelled. This is not a good news for people who were fans of the service. It definitely doesn't look like a success for all concerned. Basically, HB is seen by many (myself included) as a great service to have, not as a great trick for some people to get rich.
- HocusPocusLocus 9y agoYou have to consider well-known posters. This user is known: patio11
- ekianjo 9y ago> Congratulations on making a company which has sold several hundred million dollars of software. Correction: "software that it not theirs".
- freehunter 9y agoIf everyone had to sell their own software themselves, a lot of good software would never be made. Don't discount the value of a curated marketplace.
- ekianjo 9y agoBy all accounts the quality of their curation has significantly dropped in the past 2 years. Lots of junk bundles nowadays.
- minimaxir 9y agoNot tearing down; I am legitimately curious about the VC perspective and no one else had mentioned it so far. (Not even in the article!)