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> Though Tesla cited performance as the reason for the firings, the source told Reuters he was fired in spite of never having been given a bad review. Highly o

by m52go 9y ago

> Though Tesla cited performance as the reason for the firings, the source told Reuters he was fired in spite of never having been given a bad review. Highly odd for a company that's just starting production of its highest-volume product ever. Is there something about Tesla beyond the hype we should know? If I were an investor, this news would have me quite concerned. You would think they can't hire fast enough.

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yipbub 9y ago
How so? (genuinely asking) Isn't Tesla focused on using automation to scale?
throwingerman 9y ago
I would bet it is related to the mismanagement of the German automation plant that Tesla acquired about a year ago (on mobile, too hard to post links, maybe someone wants to help). The plan as I understand it was to use the technology at this company to speed up production but it hasn't been going as planned, in large part due to misunderstanding of cultural differences i.e. No one is going to be happy here in Germany if you start changing the terms of contracts that were supposed to last for the next few years and people in general don't respect abusive bosses. Unemployment rate is 3%, no need to (and lower for highly skilled workers). And you can't just tell people to not take vacation because production is behind, you'll get laughed at.
- dom0 9y ago
  Grohmann Engineering. And yes, this has happened a few times now - American corp buys some German corp and replaces managers with American ones (or American-styled ones) and a few years later no one in the industry wants to work for them any more.
KGIII 9y ago
I am an investor in Tesla. This doesn't worry me at all. Culling 1% isn't a financially bad choice and people are eager to work there. Replacing the employees should be pretty easy. It sounds a bit rough but sometimes you need to let people go, for a variety of reasons. Long term, I'd only be concerned that it gave them a poor reputation because they didn't adequately warn people and that may turn away good applicants. But, that seems unlikely, so I'm not terribly concerned. My investment in Tesla is worth about 10x what I invested, last time I checked. I don't check often as it is a long-term investment. I feel comfortable keeping my trust in Musk.

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yipbub 9y ago

How so? (genuinely asking) Isn't Tesla focused on using automation to scale?

throwingerman 9y ago

I would bet it is related to the mismanagement of the German automation plant that Tesla acquired about a year ago (on mobile, too hard to post links, maybe someone wants to help). The plan as I understand it was to use the technology at this company to speed up production but it hasn't been going as planned, in large part due to misunderstanding of cultural differences i.e. No one is going to be happy here in Germany if you start changing the terms of contracts that were supposed to last for the next few years and people in general don't respect abusive bosses. Unemployment rate is 3%, no need to (and lower for highly skilled workers). And you can't just tell people to not take vacation because production is behind, you'll get laughed at.

dom0 9y ago
Grohmann Engineering. And yes, this has happened a few times now - American corp buys some German corp and replaces managers with American ones (or American-styled ones) and a few years later no one in the industry wants to work for them any more.

KGIII 9y ago

I am an investor in Tesla. This doesn't worry me at all. Culling 1% isn't a financially bad choice and people are eager to work there. Replacing the employees should be pretty easy. It sounds a bit rough but sometimes you need to let people go, for a variety of reasons. Long term, I'd only be concerned that it gave them a poor reputation because they didn't adequately warn people and that may turn away good applicants. But, that seems unlikely, so I'm not terribly concerned. My investment in Tesla is worth about 10x what I invested, last time I checked. I don't check often as it is a long-term investment. I feel comfortable keeping my trust in Musk.