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If you've killed someone using a vehicle you should be held accountable. Would you use the same argument at a rape trial? People have, and it's utterly disgust

If you've killed someone using a vehicle you should be held accountable. Would you use the same argument at a rape trial? People have, and it's utterly disgusting. "Why ruin this young man's life for a mistake," they say. Being called "accidents" is bullshit. These things often happen for reasons.

choko 9y ago
Let me give you a real-life example of an accident: My cousin, (completely sober, alert, and obeying all applicable traffic laws) ran over a slick substance on the road causing his car to slide into oncoming traffic. Unfortunately, his progress was halted by an oncoming vehicle. The person in the other vehicle was killed. Should my cousin be legally responsible for that death?
- astrodust 9y ago
  Regardless of cause, that's a collision. If there was nothing they could have done to prevent that incident, if any reasonable driver would have had exactly the same problem, then perhaps they're not at fault. If somehow other people managed to navigate that hazard without issue then there may be an element of fault. Were they driving too fast? Were they slow to react? A good lawyer would be able to argue that the root cause of that collision was the spill on the road, which seems like a reasonable defence. If it went to trial a jury would be inclined to agree, so there's no real risk of over-prosecuting here. Keep in mind that these sorts of cases are the exception, not the norm.
rhino369 9y ago
Rape and accidental or negligent homicide aren't comparable because, by law, you can't accidentally rape someone. You have to recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally rape someone for it to be a crime. When people say that a rape was a mistake, they mean they made an error in judgment or something else. When we are talking about a car accident, we mean that they didn't intend to hurt anyone.
- astrodust 9y ago
  > ...you can't accidentally rape someone... "I slipped" has been used as a defense multiple times. > You have to recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally rape someone for it to be a crime. In America? Not in other places like Sweden. They're car collisions, not accidents.

choko 9y ago

Let me give you a real-life example of an accident: My cousin, (completely sober, alert, and obeying all applicable traffic laws) ran over a slick substance on the road causing his car to slide into oncoming traffic. Unfortunately, his progress was halted by an oncoming vehicle. The person in the other vehicle was killed. Should my cousin be legally responsible for that death?

astrodust 9y ago
Regardless of cause, that's a collision. If there was nothing they could have done to prevent that incident, if any reasonable driver would have had exactly the same problem, then perhaps they're not at fault. If somehow other people managed to navigate that hazard without issue then there may be an element of fault. Were they driving too fast? Were they slow to react? A good lawyer would be able to argue that the root cause of that collision was the spill on the road, which seems like a reasonable defence. If it went to trial a jury would be inclined to agree, so there's no real risk of over-prosecuting here. Keep in mind that these sorts of cases are the exception, not the norm.

rhino369 9y ago

Rape and accidental or negligent homicide aren't comparable because, by law, you can't accidentally rape someone. You have to recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally rape someone for it to be a crime. When people say that a rape was a mistake, they mean they made an error in judgment or something else. When we are talking about a car accident, we mean that they didn't intend to hurt anyone.

astrodust 9y ago
> ...you can't accidentally rape someone... "I slipped" has been used as a defense multiple times. > You have to recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally rape someone for it to be a crime. In America? Not in other places like Sweden. They're car collisions, not accidents.