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You're right of course. In the end, politics is all about power. With vindictiveness a big part of it -- a more powerful and venerable strategy than mere econom

by Radim 9y ago

You're right of course. In the end, politics is all about power. With vindictiveness a big part of it -- a more powerful and venerable strategy than mere economic rationality. Where power originates with people, manipulating the general opinion is the ultimate source of power. Ever heard of "bank runs"? It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy -- once you manage to scare enough people, you can shape reality. Healthy banks fall. Threads like "Should I leave the UK because of Brexit?" pop up. What I'm saying is there is (as in, must necessarily be) very little implications of "Brexit", technically speaking. What will really happen is all about what people's emotions make it to be, which are in turn shaped by whose PR prevails.

pjc50 9y ago
> must necessarily be) very little implications of "Brexit", technically speaking How (what mechanism) is this a necessity?
- lhnz 9y ago
  Presumably inertia. Bureaucracies are not productive enough to enact changes like Brexit in a short amount of time. Europe will need to determine exactly the ruleset which they believe will apply to UK imports/exports, and it will be extremely costly and slow to make any significant changes, since whatever is decided will need to flow down to multiple agencies. Consider, for example, the cost of rewriting lots of technology to support a new arrangement for the UK. Can it be done in 2 years, 4 years, 6 years in every single country that the UK trades with? It will be easier to have arrangements to continue with what we have for now and then to grandfather in what already exists at some point. (This is just my layman's perspective and it's based entirely on intuition so I could be completely wrong!)
barrkel 9y ago
> (as in, must necessarily be) very little implications of "Brexit" On the contrary, it is necessary for the EU as a political project that there are negative implications of Brexit, and that those negative implications are perceived by everyone.
- Radim 9y ago
  OK, but isn't that what I said? Where is the "contrary"?

by Radim 9y ago

pjc50 9y ago

> must necessarily be) very little implications of "Brexit", technically speaking How (what mechanism) is this a necessity?

lhnz 9y ago
Presumably inertia. Bureaucracies are not productive enough to enact changes like Brexit in a short amount of time. Europe will need to determine exactly the ruleset which they believe will apply to UK imports/exports, and it will be extremely costly and slow to make any significant changes, since whatever is decided will need to flow down to multiple agencies. Consider, for example, the cost of rewriting lots of technology to support a new arrangement for the UK. Can it be done in 2 years, 4 years, 6 years in every single country that the UK trades with? It will be easier to have arrangements to continue with what we have for now and then to grandfather in what already exists at some point. (This is just my layman's perspective and it's based entirely on intuition so I could be completely wrong!)

barrkel 9y ago

> (as in, must necessarily be) very little implications of "Brexit" On the contrary, it is necessary for the EU as a political project that there are negative implications of Brexit, and that those negative implications are perceived by everyone.

Radim 9y ago
OK, but isn't that what I said? Where is the "contrary"?