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I feel obligated to point out that First Round's content marketing has literally made me hate them. Their breathless hypey, smarmy tone yet content-free nature
by CPLX 9y ago
I feel obligated to point out that First Round's content marketing has literally made me hate them.
Their breathless hypey, smarmy tone yet content-free nature of their posts makes them come off as profoundly silly and unserious. They sound like something a Silcon Valley HBO writers room would reject as too cliched.
Given that they often make the front page of HN perhaps my opinion is an outlier, granted.
- benkarst 9y agoNo, you're not an outlier. I want to know more about content marketing but that was next level smarmy. I think we all want more women in tech but Jesus, their arrogance is cringe worthy.
- smc90 9y agoI think our consistent results speak for themselves, hence the confidence (never want to be arrogant! that's a bummer) but it's true, it was a friendly wide-ranging conversation among insiders. [Another reason editing is good -- most podcasts ARE this way in original!] But it's really too bad you are commenting on the women in tech thing as if that's the point, or that it's a favor to us (when we earned our jobs through expertise and competence and results).
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- Mz 9y agoI am not familiar with their work, but I am having trouble getting though this piece, in part because it is long, and in part because it seems pretty fluffy to me. I am a content producer. I am both a blogger and someone who gets paid to produce content. So, I was hoping for something meaty to enhance my work. I have read most of the way through this and, so far, the only solid tips are things I already know: Use bullet points, subheaders, etc to make written content more scannable, accessible and digestible. They talk a lot about personal process. I am usually very interested in things like that, but I don't think that fits the title of the piece and I am finding it surprisingly yawn worthy and irrelevant. I was looking for actionable advice on content marketing and I don't feel I am seeing much of that. They also talk a lot about how hit or miss their work feels to them, how challenging it is to measure its effectiveness and that they don't really know how to do that for sure, etc. The impression that gives me personally is that they don't really know what they are doing. Which seems like it can't be right because they have had prestigious positions etc. But, I look for meaningful metrics and they talk a lot about going with their gut or just having a sense of something. Your job is communicating information and this artsy, fartsy hand wavy gut intuition is the best thing you can say? Okay, great. So you are telling me you are some great artist with amazing good taste. This in no way whatsoever tells me how to develop the same skill. So, color me unimpressed.
- cosmie 9y ago> I was looking for actionable advice on content marketing and I don't feel I am seeing much of that. As a professional in the field, do you happen to have any recommendations on sources that do have actionable advice? It's an area I love to learn more about but haven't done enough work in it to suss out the good sources from the fluff pieces.
- smc90 9y agoI've been working on some stuff so can share links here later! There's actually a dearth of good stuff out there. Most of the strategy calls with founders are custom too based on what they're trying to accomplish.
- Mz 9y agohttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnC-eZVdfjZ1oq3r1NQ3ePA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnC-eZVdfjZ1oq3r1NQ3ePA Most of it is specific to their platform. It is intended for their clients and their writers. But I work for them and I learn a lot from working for them and I have viewed a number of their videos at various times. That is all that readily comes to mind that I can easily direct you to. I hash a lot of stuff out related to blog development with my sons. But that isn't some readily curated set of info. We share links via email and we talk about things, some of it from personal observation, some of it from research we know about. So, for example, I like reading articles about Jeph Jacques, the highest grossing web comic artist on the planet (or was at one time) and, at one time, I read through all the footnotes on his main comic Questionable Content. People buy merchandise because of stuff in his comics.