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I wonder what makes Windows worse than Android. Android seems to get consent in an equally unclear way (i.e. location tracking), collect much more personal data

I wonder what makes Windows worse than Android. Android seems to get consent in an equally unclear way (i.e. location tracking), collect much more personal data because phones are carried everywhere, and runs on much more devices in the Netherlands than Windows 10. Is Android going to be the next target, please?

mateuszf 9y ago
Maybe the fact that on Android you often have to agree for the apps to to gather certain data and give them permissions. Of course there is a lot of grey area here, but mostly from the specific apps, not necessarily from the OS.
notzorbo3 9y ago
Android's location tracking is a feature and I believe is not turned on automatically. Most of Windows 10's data collection serves no obvious purpose and is on by default. It's also 4 screens full of toggles that make you go "uh what?!" But I wouldn't mind if they went after android for the purpose of making it clearer what's being tracked and gathered.
- RobertoG 9y ago
  "Android's location tracking is a feature and I believe is not turned on automatically." It's not but they insist that you do in an unclear way every time you open google maps.
  - hadrien01 9y ago
    And when you disable location while it's in GPS-only mode and re-enable it, it defaults to the send-everything-to-Google mode.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  I surely don't know, I only became aware of it, when Android suddenly started to ask me to submit reviews and pictures about my current location.
  - Tijdreiziger 9y ago
    I turned Location History off and I _still_ get notifications asking me to submit reviews of the places I'm at. If anybody knows how to turn (seemingly) 24/7 location tracking off, please let me know.
    - notzorbo3 9y ago
      Location History is something different I believe. It's whether Android / Google stores the history of places you've been too. It says nothing about whether it's doing things with your current location. On Android 7.x: Settings -> Location -> Recent location requests, tap each service, tap 'Permissions' and revoke the permissions for each app that has it. Settings -> Location -> Location services, tap each service and disable everything. That seems to fix it for me. Of course, at some random time in the future, Google will enable them again. I'm fairly certain I disabled this a few times already.
rocqua 9y ago
I think that technically, this is google via google maps, as opposed to android. Thus, permission might be granted via the terms of service on your google account.
Rjevski 9y ago
Android was doing it from the start. Windows used to not do this and aggressively started pushing an update (Windows 10) that started doing this shady behaviour on machines that used to be clean.

mateuszf 9y ago

Maybe the fact that on Android you often have to agree for the apps to to gather certain data and give them permissions. Of course there is a lot of grey area here, but mostly from the specific apps, not necessarily from the OS.

notzorbo3 9y ago

Android's location tracking is a feature and I believe is not turned on automatically. Most of Windows 10's data collection serves no obvious purpose and is on by default. It's also 4 screens full of toggles that make you go "uh what?!" But I wouldn't mind if they went after android for the purpose of making it clearer what's being tracked and gathered.

RobertoG 9y ago
"Android's location tracking is a feature and I believe is not turned on automatically." It's not but they insist that you do in an unclear way every time you open google maps.
- hadrien01 9y ago
  And when you disable location while it's in GPS-only mode and re-enable it, it defaults to the send-everything-to-Google mode.
pjmlp 9y ago
I surely don't know, I only became aware of it, when Android suddenly started to ask me to submit reviews and pictures about my current location.
- Tijdreiziger 9y ago
  I turned Location History off and I _still_ get notifications asking me to submit reviews of the places I'm at. If anybody knows how to turn (seemingly) 24/7 location tracking off, please let me know.
  - notzorbo3 9y ago
    Location History is something different I believe. It's whether Android / Google stores the history of places you've been too. It says nothing about whether it's doing things with your current location. On Android 7.x: Settings -> Location -> Recent location requests, tap each service, tap 'Permissions' and revoke the permissions for each app that has it. Settings -> Location -> Location services, tap each service and disable everything. That seems to fix it for me. Of course, at some random time in the future, Google will enable them again. I'm fairly certain I disabled this a few times already.

rocqua 9y ago

I think that technically, this is google via google maps, as opposed to android. Thus, permission might be granted via the terms of service on your google account.

Rjevski 9y ago

Android was doing it from the start. Windows used to not do this and aggressively started pushing an update (Windows 10) that started doing this shady behaviour on machines that used to be clean.