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Nice, Guardian. Only a passing mention of the civil war that has led to all this. The US and UK need to stop funding Saudi Arabia's military in order for this t

by k-ian 9y ago

Nice, Guardian. Only a passing mention of the civil war that has led to all this. The US and UK need to stop funding Saudi Arabia's military in order for this to stop happening in Yemen.

Theodores 9y ago
Completely. Really that Saudi Arabia effort of a 'country' needs to be boycotted for the human rights abuses and attitude towards women. However the big news in the UK yesterday was about BAE systems not able to keep everyone working and how hoped for orders from Saudi Arabia would save the day. So the share price of BAE systems and a few death industry Jobs matters more than cholera.
- tdb7893 9y ago
  To be fair there are little day to day effects of the cholera epidemic for people in the UK and people generally prefer stories more immediately applicable to them
dghughes 9y ago
It was an article about cholera and how it affects people in Yemen. The Guardian has article right next to the cholera article titled 'Blame the Saudis for Yemen's cholera outbreak – they are targeting the people'.
baursak 9y ago
It's not just funding. It's supplying with weapons and bombs and intelligence.
abalone 9y ago
"Conflict" is mentioned four times in the article and it very clearly states: More than two years of fighting between the Saudi-led coalition and Houthi rebels has crippled the country, causing widespread internal displacement, the collapse of the public health system, and leaving millions on the brink of famine. It does not, however, mention US/UK support for it. I agree it would be better to connect the dismay that this article engenders in the reader with outrage for our support for Saudi Arabia.
lossolo 9y ago
> The US and UK need to stop funding Saudi Arabia's military in order for this to stop happening in Yemen. It's not so simple. It's all about influence between Iran (which means Iran, Russia etc block) and Saudi Arabia (which means USA, UK etc side block) in Yemen. You can be on one side or on the other, there is no middle ground there. None of the players really cares about Yemen, on this level game is different, there are no "values" besides influence/money.
- bjelkeman-again 9y ago
  So Yemen is a proxy war, just like Syria is then?
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kafkaesq 9y ago
The Guardian has been giving pretty decent coverage to the Yemen conflict (and the US/UK/Saudi relation it) overall, actually. Well above the level most people in the U.S. would have a stomach for, were they to actually pay attention to this rather horrid and depraved state of affairs being conducted on the global stage, in their names. At the same time, there are only so many column inches available, and there's only so much effort (and so many lines) one can devote to the regurgitating the broader context (that's generally covered in other articles they run).
owebmaster 9y ago
Is it a civil war or is Saudi Arabia waging war against Yemen?
jlg23 9y ago
Their pretty decent coverage is hidden behind the first link in the article, "Yemen": https://www.theguardian.com/world/yemen https://www.theguardian.com/world/yemen
tryingagainbro 9y ago
>>The US and UK need to stop funding Saudi Arabia's military It's the other way around. We need oil, at least for now, so we have to make sure it makes it to the market and Saudis are the major player when it comes to adjusting prices. In exchange, they buy a lot or favors from the power that be...mainly weapons, that provide jobs for US, UK, Germany etc. US could probably overthrow the Saudis in a week if it wanted, and they know. weasel statement: They would be fighting anyway, oil or no oil, US or no US involvement.

by k-ian 9y ago

Nice, Guardian. Only a passing mention of the civil war that has led to all this. The US and UK need to stop funding Saudi Arabia's military in order for this to stop happening in Yemen.

Theodores 9y ago

Completely. Really that Saudi Arabia effort of a 'country' needs to be boycotted for the human rights abuses and attitude towards women. However the big news in the UK yesterday was about BAE systems not able to keep everyone working and how hoped for orders from Saudi Arabia would save the day. So the share price of BAE systems and a few death industry Jobs matters more than cholera.

tdb7893 9y ago
To be fair there are little day to day effects of the cholera epidemic for people in the UK and people generally prefer stories more immediately applicable to them

dghughes 9y ago

It was an article about cholera and how it affects people in Yemen. The Guardian has article right next to the cholera article titled 'Blame the Saudis for Yemen's cholera outbreak – they are targeting the people'.

baursak 9y ago

It's not just funding. It's supplying with weapons and bombs and intelligence.

abalone 9y ago

"Conflict" is mentioned four times in the article and it very clearly states: More than two years of fighting between the Saudi-led coalition and Houthi rebels has crippled the country, causing widespread internal displacement, the collapse of the public health system, and leaving millions on the brink of famine. It does not, however, mention US/UK support for it. I agree it would be better to connect the dismay that this article engenders in the reader with outrage for our support for Saudi Arabia.

lossolo 9y ago

> The US and UK need to stop funding Saudi Arabia's military in order for this to stop happening in Yemen. It's not so simple. It's all about influence between Iran (which means Iran, Russia etc block) and Saudi Arabia (which means USA, UK etc side block) in Yemen. You can be on one side or on the other, there is no middle ground there. None of the players really cares about Yemen, on this level game is different, there are no "values" besides influence/money.

bjelkeman-again 9y ago
So Yemen is a proxy war, just like Syria is then?

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kafkaesq 9y ago

The Guardian has been giving pretty decent coverage to the Yemen conflict (and the US/UK/Saudi relation it) overall, actually. Well above the level most people in the U.S. would have a stomach for, were they to actually pay attention to this rather horrid and depraved state of affairs being conducted on the global stage, in their names. At the same time, there are only so many column inches available, and there's only so much effort (and so many lines) one can devote to the regurgitating the broader context (that's generally covered in other articles they run).

owebmaster 9y ago

Is it a civil war or is Saudi Arabia waging war against Yemen?

jlg23 9y ago

Their pretty decent coverage is hidden behind the first link in the article, "Yemen": https://www.theguardian.com/world/yemen https://www.theguardian.com/world/yemen

tryingagainbro 9y ago

>>The US and UK need to stop funding Saudi Arabia's military It's the other way around. We need oil, at least for now, so we have to make sure it makes it to the market and Saudis are the major player when it comes to adjusting prices. In exchange, they buy a lot or favors from the power that be...mainly weapons, that provide jobs for US, UK, Germany etc. US could probably overthrow the Saudis in a week if it wanted, and they know. weasel statement: They would be fighting anyway, oil or no oil, US or no US involvement.