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Is there still some new features coming to Ruby? It seems the language is not this cutting edge technology it was once. I mean we see more changes in Java and P

by sunseb 9y ago

Is there still some new features coming to Ruby? It seems the language is not this cutting edge technology it was once. I mean we see more changes in Java and PHP than Ruby these days.

rurounijones 9y ago
It is largely a mature language and the inherent flexibility of the language means that a lot of things that require new language level constructs in other languages like Java aren't needed here. The interesting stuff is happening in the runtimes (See TruffleRuby https://github.com/graalvm/truffleruby https://github.com/graalvm/truffleruby )
tcopeland 9y ago
Yes, although many changes are performance optimizations and other under-the-covers sorts of things. Here are the changes for 2.5 which if tradition holds will be out on Christmas: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2017/10/10/ruby-2-5-0-preview1-released/ https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2017/10/10/ruby-2-5-0-prev...
abstruse 9y ago
What new features does Ruby need? Why does a language need to be "cutting edge technology"? What are the issues with Ruby that need changing? These aren't rhetorical questions, I don't know much about Ruby and am genuinely curious.
- pmontra 9y ago
  They're adding a kind of pipeline operator (actually a method) http://mlomnicki.com/yield-self-in-ruby-25/ http://mlomnicki.com/yield-self-in-ruby-25/
bridge_ro 9y ago
Along with what other people already responded, I think they're also pretty focused on the Ruby 3x3 project (making Ruby version 3 be three times faster), which may be slowing down the general heap of new features Rubyists were used to.
flavio81 9y ago
>It seems the language is not this cutting edge technology it was once. Was it really cutting edge? I understood it as an improved OOP-only Perl. Rails, on the other hand, did knock me out the first time I saw it. I guess few languages can be called 'cutting edge', perhaps the ML family including Haskell and (yes, after all these years) the Lisp dialects.
- goatlover 9y ago
  Well, they were cutting edge decades ago, it just took mainstream programming languages a long time to catch up (sort of). For example, you see macros in Elixir, Julia and Crystal, which are all newer languages.

by sunseb 9y ago

Is there still some new features coming to Ruby? It seems the language is not this cutting edge technology it was once. I mean we see more changes in Java and PHP than Ruby these days.

rurounijones 9y ago

It is largely a mature language and the inherent flexibility of the language means that a lot of things that require new language level constructs in other languages like Java aren't needed here. The interesting stuff is happening in the runtimes (See TruffleRuby https://github.com/graalvm/truffleruby https://github.com/graalvm/truffleruby )

tcopeland 9y ago

Yes, although many changes are performance optimizations and other under-the-covers sorts of things. Here are the changes for 2.5 which if tradition holds will be out on Christmas: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2017/10/10/ruby-2-5-0-preview1-released/ https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2017/10/10/ruby-2-5-0-prev...

abstruse 9y ago

What new features does Ruby need? Why does a language need to be "cutting edge technology"? What are the issues with Ruby that need changing? These aren't rhetorical questions, I don't know much about Ruby and am genuinely curious.

pmontra 9y ago
They're adding a kind of pipeline operator (actually a method) http://mlomnicki.com/yield-self-in-ruby-25/ http://mlomnicki.com/yield-self-in-ruby-25/

bridge_ro 9y ago

Along with what other people already responded, I think they're also pretty focused on the Ruby 3x3 project (making Ruby version 3 be three times faster), which may be slowing down the general heap of new features Rubyists were used to.

flavio81 9y ago

>It seems the language is not this cutting edge technology it was once. Was it really cutting edge? I understood it as an improved OOP-only Perl. Rails, on the other hand, did knock me out the first time I saw it. I guess few languages can be called 'cutting edge', perhaps the ML family including Haskell and (yes, after all these years) the Lisp dialects.

goatlover 9y ago
Well, they were cutting edge decades ago, it just took mainstream programming languages a long time to catch up (sort of). For example, you see macros in Elixir, Julia and Crystal, which are all newer languages.