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As somewhat more intelligent primates you can rest assured that sex is a primary male driver in seeking the attention of women, if not the only reason. Let’s no

As somewhat more intelligent primates you can rest assured that sex is a primary male driver in seeking the attention of women, if not the only reason. Let’s not ignore a million years of biological inperative and assume a few hundred years of civilization has changed us.

vacri 9y ago
This is a pop-science view of biological and psychological drivers. The reality is more complex than "everything is a thin veneer over 'let's fuck'" "Let's fuck" is vital for continuation of a species, but it not the only reason why species might show a behaviour.
ohyes 9y ago
So? You've given a generalized historical basis for heterosexual sex, you haven't explained the nuances of a sentient being in modern society making a mate selection. Do some critical thinking about this, how do you personally decide who to mate with?
- Trill-I-Am 9y ago
  How do you assess someone else’s assessment of their consciousness as truthful? What about their blindness to the effects of their own subsconscious?
amluto 9y ago
Are you suggesting that men have no reason whatsoever to seek the attention of men and that sex is the only reason for men to seek the attention of women? If so, I'm reasonably confident I can find plenty of counterexamples.
- xor1 9y ago
  The majority of modern men who use (resort to?) dating apps are seeking companionship first and foremost, and being left wanting. Which is fine and completely fair, of course. Not everyone deserves companionship. Not everyone deserves happiness, or even a base level of satisfaction.
  - blowski 9y ago
    > Not everyone deserves happiness, or even a base level of satisfaction. Can you expand on that. It’s unclear what you mean by “deserves”.
    - xor1 9y ago
      No one should expect to be happy. Happiness is not guaranteed.
      - blowski 9y ago
        I agree that happiness is not guaranteed, but also think everyone deserves it, even if they don’t get it. Small distinction, but to imply that someone perhaps suffering from depression or stuck in really terrible circumstances doesn’t even deserve happiness sounds very harsh.
        xor1 9y ago
        It's reality
        taejo 9y ago
        "Deserves" is a "should"-level concept, not an "is"-level concept. "It's reality" is not an answer to why someone does or does not deserve something.
        xor1 9y ago
        You seem to have misread the comment thread, I wasn't responding to a question
        ikeyany 9y ago
        Why does everyone deserve happiness? That's nonsense. There are some really horrible people out there who refuse to change.
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vacri 9y ago

This is a pop-science view of biological and psychological drivers. The reality is more complex than "everything is a thin veneer over 'let's fuck'" "Let's fuck" is vital for continuation of a species, but it not the only reason why species might show a behaviour.

ohyes 9y ago

So? You've given a generalized historical basis for heterosexual sex, you haven't explained the nuances of a sentient being in modern society making a mate selection. Do some critical thinking about this, how do you personally decide who to mate with?

Trill-I-Am 9y ago
How do you assess someone else’s assessment of their consciousness as truthful? What about their blindness to the effects of their own subsconscious?

amluto 9y ago

Are you suggesting that men have no reason whatsoever to seek the attention of men and that sex is the only reason for men to seek the attention of women? If so, I'm reasonably confident I can find plenty of counterexamples.

xor1 9y ago
The majority of modern men who use (resort to?) dating apps are seeking companionship first and foremost, and being left wanting. Which is fine and completely fair, of course. Not everyone deserves companionship. Not everyone deserves happiness, or even a base level of satisfaction.
- blowski 9y ago
  > Not everyone deserves happiness, or even a base level of satisfaction. Can you expand on that. It’s unclear what you mean by “deserves”.
  - xor1 9y ago
    No one should expect to be happy. Happiness is not guaranteed.
    - blowski 9y ago
      I agree that happiness is not guaranteed, but also think everyone deserves it, even if they don’t get it. Small distinction, but to imply that someone perhaps suffering from depression or stuck in really terrible circumstances doesn’t even deserve happiness sounds very harsh.
      - xor1 9y ago
        It's reality
        taejo 9y ago
        "Deserves" is a "should"-level concept, not an "is"-level concept. "It's reality" is not an answer to why someone does or does not deserve something.
        xor1 9y ago
        You seem to have misread the comment thread, I wasn't responding to a question
      - ikeyany 9y ago
        Why does everyone deserve happiness? That's nonsense. There are some really horrible people out there who refuse to change.
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