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> Not everyone earns 6 figures and can save up 10k to gamble on a venture, and to assume that everyone can is incredibly entitled. Maybe you can point out wher

by dvt 9y ago

> Not everyone earns 6 figures and can save up 10k to gamble on a venture, and to assume that everyone can is incredibly entitled. Maybe you can point out where I made that assumption. My post wasn't even about my risks, but rather my parents'. Obviously risk should be mitigated. My point was this: hey look at these underprivileged people that barely spoke English and had no rights that came over to the US with two kids and no money. In two decades and with a lot of hard work, pain, setback, prayer, and tears, they built a life for themselves. Their kids were deeply affected and are also trying to push boundaries in their own way. For my dad, the risk was was moving to the US. For me, the risk is starting my own company. What is your risk? As they say: you can't win unless you play.

maccard 9y ago
> Maybe you can point out where I made that assumption. You didn't make it directly, but > Everyone can take risks. Investing $10,000 and 6 months of your life in a startup is not ruin-inducing Implies to me that you believe that everyone can invest a large sum of money and a not-insignificant amount of time into an incredibly risky venture. > My post wasn't even about my risks, but rather my parents'. My only point about your parents were that they are a safety net. Other than that, I have no beef with your parents risk (and applaud them for doing what they did so succesfully). Half your post is about your parents risks, the other half is how you think it's ok to gamble $10k, risk 6 months, and do so by quitting your cushy 6 figure salary job to do so. Being in a position to do that is privilege.
- dvt 9y ago
  > Being in a position to do that is privilege. Breathing is privilege when compared to a corpse. If everything is privilege, then nothing is privilege. Nuance is important. Taking 6 months off is not some kind of insane windfall akin to winning the lottery. All it takes is a year or two of careful planning and some basic conditions (no illness, no layoff, etc.) You make it seem like me taking some time off and investing in my own ideas (i.e. taking a calculated risk) is something only the privileged can do. That's a fatalist and imo wrong point of view. Are you the type of person that thinks only the "smart kids" get 4.0 GPAs because they're somehow genetically gifted? It's mostly just a lot of hard work, annoying reading and homework, and not partying every night.
  - maccard 9y ago
    > Breathing is privilege when compared to a corpse. If everything is privilege, then nothing is privilege. Oh come off it. Are you really comparing being in the top 10% of earners in the US to breathing? > some basic conditions Such as earning enough after tax, rent and expenses to be able to afford to save up half a years living expenses in 2 years, and have a safety net to fall back on if it goes wrong. You’re missing two things here. 1) not everyone makes a six figure salary that enables them to save that kind of money in a short period of time. 2) not everyone has the safety net hat you have in the case that it fails. If your venture fails and you’re out of work for a year, what will you do? > are you the type of person that thinks only the “smart kids”... No, stop trying to turn this around on me. I’m claiming your privilege is being a top earner with wealthy parents to fall back on. For the record, not everyone has what it takes to be a 4.0 GPA student, and if you think that “anyone can” just as long as they work hard, then you are wrong. > it’s mostly Judy a lot of hard work, annoying reading and homework and not partying every night. I don’t really know why you’re brjnfjng this up, but petting every night has very little to do with it compared to the other side of the equation - time. If you have time to do the hard work and the reading, do the extra curricular activities, that’s your privilege. You’re just as privileged as the people who choose to spend that time partying. Meanwhile in the real world, not everyone has the same circumstances, and you come across as incredibly patronising to assume that they do.

by dvt 9y ago

maccard 9y ago

> Maybe you can point out where I made that assumption. You didn't make it directly, but > Everyone can take risks. Investing $10,000 and 6 months of your life in a startup is not ruin-inducing Implies to me that you believe that everyone can invest a large sum of money and a not-insignificant amount of time into an incredibly risky venture. > My post wasn't even about my risks, but rather my parents'. My only point about your parents were that they are a safety net. Other than that, I have no beef with your parents risk (and applaud them for doing what they did so succesfully). Half your post is about your parents risks, the other half is how you think it's ok to gamble $10k, risk 6 months, and do so by quitting your cushy 6 figure salary job to do so. Being in a position to do that is privilege.

dvt 9y ago
> Being in a position to do that is privilege. Breathing is privilege when compared to a corpse. If everything is privilege, then nothing is privilege. Nuance is important. Taking 6 months off is not some kind of insane windfall akin to winning the lottery. All it takes is a year or two of careful planning and some basic conditions (no illness, no layoff, etc.) You make it seem like me taking some time off and investing in my own ideas (i.e. taking a calculated risk) is something only the privileged can do. That's a fatalist and imo wrong point of view. Are you the type of person that thinks only the "smart kids" get 4.0 GPAs because they're somehow genetically gifted? It's mostly just a lot of hard work, annoying reading and homework, and not partying every night.
- maccard 9y ago
  > Breathing is privilege when compared to a corpse. If everything is privilege, then nothing is privilege. Oh come off it. Are you really comparing being in the top 10% of earners in the US to breathing? > some basic conditions Such as earning enough after tax, rent and expenses to be able to afford to save up half a years living expenses in 2 years, and have a safety net to fall back on if it goes wrong. You’re missing two things here. 1) not everyone makes a six figure salary that enables them to save that kind of money in a short period of time. 2) not everyone has the safety net hat you have in the case that it fails. If your venture fails and you’re out of work for a year, what will you do? > are you the type of person that thinks only the “smart kids”... No, stop trying to turn this around on me. I’m claiming your privilege is being a top earner with wealthy parents to fall back on. For the record, not everyone has what it takes to be a 4.0 GPA student, and if you think that “anyone can” just as long as they work hard, then you are wrong. > it’s mostly Judy a lot of hard work, annoying reading and homework and not partying every night. I don’t really know why you’re brjnfjng this up, but petting every night has very little to do with it compared to the other side of the equation - time. If you have time to do the hard work and the reading, do the extra curricular activities, that’s your privilege. You’re just as privileged as the people who choose to spend that time partying. Meanwhile in the real world, not everyone has the same circumstances, and you come across as incredibly patronising to assume that they do.