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> “As a vendor here in the United States,” Clark said, “we are headquartered in a country where it is OK to say no.” Until the government comes knocking and ca
by thg 9y ago
> “As a vendor here in the United States,” Clark said, “we are headquartered in a country where it is OK to say no.”
Until the government comes knocking and can demand pretty much everything with your only option being a secret court that always sides with the government anyway.
Is it too much tinfoil to think that this isn't so much about "putting security over sales" than it is about "making sure that NSA backdoor remains hidden"?
- radicaldreamer 9y agoJust ask the former Qwest CEO about saying “no”.
- macsj200 9y agoCould you elaborate?
- acqq 9y ago2013: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-story-of-joseph-nacchio-and-the-nsa-2013-6?IR=T http://www.businessinsider.com/the-story-of-joseph-nacchio-a... "Only One Big Telecom CEO Refused To Cave To The NSA ... And He's Been In Jail For 4 Years" 2015: https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2015/05/01/u-s-avoids-trial-on-ex-qwest-ceos-nsa-claims-with-18-million-tax-refund-deal/#3ba6e73e705e https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2015/05/01/u-s-avoi... "the government has avoided a trial in which the 65-year-old former executive planned to air what he says was his refusal, in 2001, to allow Qwest to participate in a National Security Agency program he believed was illegal." 2016: http://fullmeasure.news/news/politics/encryption-battle http://fullmeasure.news/news/politics/encryption-battle
- CamelCaseName 9y agoI think it's unfair not to clarify that he went to jail for insider trading. He believes that that the government only brought the action against him because he refused to divulge user data, but he is in jail because of insider trading.
- acqq 9y agoSome details from the last link: "the NSA proposition to Qwest was nearly seven months before 9/11, according to Nacchio." "In a bizarre twist, the judge in Nacchio's case, Edward Nottingham, was soon embroiled in scandal, accused of soliciting prostitutes and allegedly asking one to lie to investigators. He resigned and apologized, but wasn't prosecuted." "Nacchio's conviction was overturned on appeal in a decision that found Judge Nottingham made key errors. But the government got the conviction reinstated by a split judges' panel."
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- rtpg 9y agowhat about Dreamhost (see yesterday's story)? Or about countless cases that end up with the government not getting what they want? There are courts, and rules, and sometimes rules mean you hand things over, but sometimes they mean you can say no.