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Do you believe in Austrian economics or Young Earth Creationism too? I mean, it's within your rights...

betenoire 9y ago
This is too dismissive, I think you are reading too much into words like "release". Learning to love yourself and to let go of things gives you a new perspective. A new perspective leads to new thinking and new experiences, and we all know our brains are plastic and are constantly changing. You are the fool, not he.
- ada1981 9y ago
  For me the experience often went like: 1) notice I'm depressed 2) create space to feel emotions more and use something like Breathwork to loosen up my ego enough to get out of my default mode of shutting down / numbing out. 3) having a deeply personal / visionary like experience of seeing old events in my life or relationships or choosing to forgive someone. 4) am actually emotional release, like crying and feeling like I was able to be back in my body vs being stuck in a painful loop in my head.
ada1981 9y ago
What I know is that I was diagnosed with bipolar / depression after being suicidal and was offered nothing but medication from Western Psychiatry. My entire life up until that point had been based around avoiding emotions. From chasing fame, money, success,drugs, sex, criticizing, creating drama, etc. At the time I was consulting for a Peter Thiel backed startup focusing on finding alternative cures for western diagnosis. I took what the doctors there were showing me and began to look at alternative perspectives. What I found was shocking. That antidepressants didn't really work and outcomes for most people were pretty terrible in general. The view of depression that is it is unfelt anger allowed me to begin to make more space to feel anger vs. stuffing it down or projecting it onto others. There has been a little research into this that doesn't contradict it. I followed the experience of anger back inside and it opened up an entirely new part of my mind. I was able to see past events in my life where I was hurt and scared and shut down. And how I learned to supress my emotions. Through a combination of psychedelics, breathwork and NARM therapy, I learned how to stay with my emotions and how to make space to heal older traumas when I was feeling triggered or overwhelmed. I was able to be with even more extreme states like paranoia or psychosis and every time I'd go to the heart of the emotional experience, in the moment I'd find some unprocessed event from my life that needed attention. So, yeah. That way of thinking was very useful for me and was supported by a variety of resources that helped me along the way. Including some psychiatrists, doctors, and therapists. I take no medication and now have access to a very deep, soft, warm and loving center in myself that I had never experienced before. If something happens (like my grandmother dying last month), and I noticed I'm feeling depresssed, I use those same tools and get closer to the hurt or pain vs my old default of numbing, avoidance, depression or mania. I'm an N of 1, of course but I've been able to help other people do the same and this approach feels healthier and more useful than purely symptom management. We are all unique, and I certainly have access to some exotic states of consciousness, but as I said I feel connected, loving, content, solid and welcoming of all emotions including love and happiness. Happy to discuss more privately if you prefer: a@175g.com Cheers.

This is too dismissive, I think you are reading too much into words like "release". Learning to love yourself and to let go of things gives you a new perspective. A new perspective leads to new thinking and new experiences, and we all know our brains are plastic and are constantly changing. You are the fool, not he.

ada1981 9y ago
For me the experience often went like: 1) notice I'm depressed 2) create space to feel emotions more and use something like Breathwork to loosen up my ego enough to get out of my default mode of shutting down / numbing out. 3) having a deeply personal / visionary like experience of seeing old events in my life or relationships or choosing to forgive someone. 4) am actually emotional release, like crying and feeling like I was able to be back in my body vs being stuck in a painful loop in my head.

ada1981 9y ago

What I know is that I was diagnosed with bipolar / depression after being suicidal and was offered nothing but medication from Western Psychiatry. My entire life up until that point had been based around avoiding emotions. From chasing fame, money, success,drugs, sex, criticizing, creating drama, etc. At the time I was consulting for a Peter Thiel backed startup focusing on finding alternative cures for western diagnosis. I took what the doctors there were showing me and began to look at alternative perspectives. What I found was shocking. That antidepressants didn't really work and outcomes for most people were pretty terrible in general. The view of depression that is it is unfelt anger allowed me to begin to make more space to feel anger vs. stuffing it down or projecting it onto others. There has been a little research into this that doesn't contradict it. I followed the experience of anger back inside and it opened up an entirely new part of my mind. I was able to see past events in my life where I was hurt and scared and shut down. And how I learned to supress my emotions. Through a combination of psychedelics, breathwork and NARM therapy, I learned how to stay with my emotions and how to make space to heal older traumas when I was feeling triggered or overwhelmed. I was able to be with even more extreme states like paranoia or psychosis and every time I'd go to the heart of the emotional experience, in the moment I'd find some unprocessed event from my life that needed attention. So, yeah. That way of thinking was very useful for me and was supported by a variety of resources that helped me along the way. Including some psychiatrists, doctors, and therapists. I take no medication and now have access to a very deep, soft, warm and loving center in myself that I had never experienced before. If something happens (like my grandmother dying last month), and I noticed I'm feeling depresssed, I use those same tools and get closer to the hurt or pain vs my old default of numbing, avoidance, depression or mania. I'm an N of 1, of course but I've been able to help other people do the same and this approach feels healthier and more useful than purely symptom management. We are all unique, and I certainly have access to some exotic states of consciousness, but as I said I feel connected, loving, content, solid and welcoming of all emotions including love and happiness. Happy to discuss more privately if you prefer: a@175g.com Cheers.