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25 minutes on a bicycle will probably just barely get you to the neighbor's house, though you can take the trail through the woods. What you're not seeing is I

by KGIII 9y ago

25 minutes on a bicycle will probably just barely get you to the neighbor's house, though you can take the trail through the woods. What you're not seeing is I've got about 3200 acres of mountainous woodland. I can have a few hundred people on my lawn, complete with live music, and the nearest neighbor will only hear it because they joined us. That's the difference. I'm more likely to see a moose than I am to see a stranger. And that's why I moved away from urban/suburban areas. As near as I can tell, more wealthy/rich people are doing much the same. In the ten years since I bought the property, the cost of land has skyrocketed. People are buying remote and moving well past suburbia. Comparatively speaking, I bought the property at a very low price. What I paid ~$500/acre for is now three to four times the price - in just a decade.

cr0sh 9y ago
I see a downside to this for everyone else; I'm not faulting you because it may have been this way before you got your land... ...but now that you (and everyone else) owns that land - no one else (unless you let them, or there's some kind of government-mandated form of easement to allow for it) can use that land: They can't hunt on it, they can't fish on it, they can't go off-roading on it - they can't even hike on it and enjoy nature. So in other words, it's a classic case of "I've got mine..." I don't blame you for this - if I had the wherewithal I'd do the same. Heck, as it is (for my budget), my wife and I have been talking about moving out of the city and on to a plot of land (much smaller - even with the cheapest land we couldn't afford 3200 acres - not to mention any upkeep or whatnot, nor taxes). Not that we dislike our neighbors or anything, we're just getting to a point not liking the bustle of the city as much. Our greater concern is more of "how long will it take to reach a hospital for an emergency" (well, that and high-speed internet access - but even that is becoming both less of an issue, as well as something I am beginning to wonder if it might be better to be without). But more and more, these spaces which used to be public property are becoming private, and rarely do the owners (whether individuals or corporations) allow for any others to set foot on the property, at least legally. I guess, though, that this isn't anything new.
- KGIII 9y ago
  My land is all open for public use, except a small area around my home. When I die, it doesn't go to my children but is maintained as a land trust which will ensure public access in perpetuity. The public was using the land before my name was on the deed. I have a legal right, but not an ethical right, to prohibit reasonable use. Instead of signs that say no trespassing, there are signs with my phone number, marked trails, and parking.

by KGIII 9y ago

cr0sh 9y ago

I see a downside to this for everyone else; I'm not faulting you because it may have been this way before you got your land... ...but now that you (and everyone else) owns that land - no one else (unless you let them, or there's some kind of government-mandated form of easement to allow for it) can use that land: They can't hunt on it, they can't fish on it, they can't go off-roading on it - they can't even hike on it and enjoy nature. So in other words, it's a classic case of "I've got mine..." I don't blame you for this - if I had the wherewithal I'd do the same. Heck, as it is (for my budget), my wife and I have been talking about moving out of the city and on to a plot of land (much smaller - even with the cheapest land we couldn't afford 3200 acres - not to mention any upkeep or whatnot, nor taxes). Not that we dislike our neighbors or anything, we're just getting to a point not liking the bustle of the city as much. Our greater concern is more of "how long will it take to reach a hospital for an emergency" (well, that and high-speed internet access - but even that is becoming both less of an issue, as well as something I am beginning to wonder if it might be better to be without). But more and more, these spaces which used to be public property are becoming private, and rarely do the owners (whether individuals or corporations) allow for any others to set foot on the property, at least legally. I guess, though, that this isn't anything new.

KGIII 9y ago
My land is all open for public use, except a small area around my home. When I die, it doesn't go to my children but is maintained as a land trust which will ensure public access in perpetuity. The public was using the land before my name was on the deed. I have a legal right, but not an ethical right, to prohibit reasonable use. Instead of signs that say no trespassing, there are signs with my phone number, marked trails, and parking.