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Correct. Russia IS the enemy. Secret warrants by a secret court is also the enemy. One is just more important and dangerous than the other (look out of the wi

Correct. Russia IS the enemy. Secret warrants by a secret court is also the enemy. One is just more important and dangerous than the other (look out of the window). Perfect example of whataboutism BTW.

apexalpha 9y ago
>One is just more important and dangerous than the other Not if you're not American. The American government has shown it doesn't care at all or stop at anything to promote its self interest through American made software outside the US.
- nasredin 9y ago
  I wrote on this before. Somebody is going to be on top. Would you rather have US, Russia or China be the superpower?
  - JBSay 9y ago
    How about none of them? Your premise is wrong.
jstanley 9y ago
> Russia IS the enemy In what sense?
- pas 9y ago
  In a very direct sense. It's a de facto totalitarian dictatorship. Its proliferation harms human rights, poses real danger to Ukraine, claims lives. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Ukrainian_crisis#Total_deaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Ukrainian_cr... , corruption also claims lives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eO8ZHfV4fk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eO8ZHfV4fk )
  - jstanley 9y ago
    But you could say much of the same about the US.
    - lightbyte 9y ago
      No you couldn't. This is from the point of view of the US state. The US is not a direct enemy of the US.
    - pas 9y ago
      Much of the same? Do you refer to military intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, ...? Do you dispute that these countries/areas are/were different from Ukraine?
  - JBSay 9y ago
    You could say a lot worse about many US allies. Saudi Arabia anyone? Human rights are irrelevant when the US government decides who is an enemy and who is an ally.
- nasredin 9y ago
  You are right. It's not so black and white. One fact you can't argue with is Russian government is telling their people US is the enemy. Follow @JuliaDavisNews . She posts gists of Russian state-controlled TV. If it's not US, it's EU/NATO/gays/"democracy" (I'm not kidding you about democracy)
  - JBSay 9y ago
    When has the Russian government ever said the US was the enemy? The only saber rattling sound is coming from Washington.
zzzcpan 9y ago
Russia is the enemy of the state, not your enemy. The state also thinks of you as an enemy. You really shouldn't be afraid of a foreign state, your state is the only real threat to you here.
- CaptSpify 9y ago
  But Russia can and would turn against you if they thought you could be useful to them. You should be afraid of both.
  - JBSay 9y ago
    Except Russia doesn't give a rat's ass about little you. The NSA on the other hand...
LARGEGALAXY 9y ago
Russia is not an enemy. You have been conditioned by mainstream media. Who the real enemy of you and your family is, controls what you watch, what you hear, what you learn. 90% of all degeneracy that is to be witnessed in Western Civilization can be attributed to these group(s) of people. I will not be going any further.

apexalpha 9y ago

>One is just more important and dangerous than the other Not if you're not American. The American government has shown it doesn't care at all or stop at anything to promote its self interest through American made software outside the US.

nasredin 9y ago
I wrote on this before. Somebody is going to be on top. Would you rather have US, Russia or China be the superpower?
- JBSay 9y ago
  How about none of them? Your premise is wrong.

jstanley 9y ago

> Russia IS the enemy In what sense?

pas 9y ago
In a very direct sense. It's a de facto totalitarian dictatorship. Its proliferation harms human rights, poses real danger to Ukraine, claims lives. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Ukrainian_crisis#Total_deaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Ukrainian_cr... , corruption also claims lives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eO8ZHfV4fk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eO8ZHfV4fk )
- jstanley 9y ago
  But you could say much of the same about the US.
  - lightbyte 9y ago
    No you couldn't. This is from the point of view of the US state. The US is not a direct enemy of the US.
  - pas 9y ago
    Much of the same? Do you refer to military intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, ...? Do you dispute that these countries/areas are/were different from Ukraine?
- JBSay 9y ago
  You could say a lot worse about many US allies. Saudi Arabia anyone? Human rights are irrelevant when the US government decides who is an enemy and who is an ally.
nasredin 9y ago
You are right. It's not so black and white. One fact you can't argue with is Russian government is telling their people US is the enemy. Follow @JuliaDavisNews . She posts gists of Russian state-controlled TV. If it's not US, it's EU/NATO/gays/"democracy" (I'm not kidding you about democracy)
- JBSay 9y ago
  When has the Russian government ever said the US was the enemy? The only saber rattling sound is coming from Washington.

zzzcpan 9y ago

Russia is the enemy of the state, not your enemy. The state also thinks of you as an enemy. You really shouldn't be afraid of a foreign state, your state is the only real threat to you here.

CaptSpify 9y ago
But Russia can and would turn against you if they thought you could be useful to them. You should be afraid of both.
- JBSay 9y ago
  Except Russia doesn't give a rat's ass about little you. The NSA on the other hand...

LARGEGALAXY 9y ago

Russia is not an enemy. You have been conditioned by mainstream media. Who the real enemy of you and your family is, controls what you watch, what you hear, what you learn. 90% of all degeneracy that is to be witnessed in Western Civilization can be attributed to these group(s) of people. I will not be going any further.