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The alternative presented is a laptop with 2008 hardware. Sure, I can do that. But that's not sending a message to the industry. That's just living in a bubble,

The alternative presented is a laptop with 2008 hardware. Sure, I can do that. But that's not sending a message to the industry. That's just living in a bubble, while still giving Lenovo some money. Don't get me wrong, I love minifree and what they're doing, I just don't believe it to be a viable alternative. There are lots of people who can't or won't use outdated hardware. Purism is a sane solution to this problem. Also, Purism is taking steps to get coreboot to run on their laptops[1][2], so the graph on this website isn't even right anymore. And I just found out that, interestingly, the T400 and X200 both come with IME. The only difference is that the AMT can be fully disabled on older intel chipsets[0]. [0]: https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/gm45_remove_me.html https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/gm45_remove_me.html [1]: https://puri.sm/posts/coreboot-on-the-librem-13-v2-part-1/ https://puri.sm/posts/coreboot-on-the-librem-13-v2-part-1/ [2]: https://puri.sm/posts/coreboot-on-the-skylake-librems-part-2/ https://puri.sm/posts/coreboot-on-the-skylake-librems-part-2...

ynniv 9y ago
First, Lenovo doesn't receive any money when you buy a used laptop. Second, using a ten year old laptop sends a much stronger message than buying a new, slightly alternative laptop. Third, security is like history - if you want to get it right, you have to wait for rigors of time to reveal the truth. We think that Purism is at least as secure as Libreboot, but we know a lot more about ten year old hardware than something fresh off the fab in China.
lurker12390879 9y ago
Coreboot does run on their laptops, but it has too many blobs to make the Libre crowd happy. Purism has mentioned they may take interest in porting the rest of the way to libreboot someday. The real issue too is that a lot of naysayers dislike Purism because they provide modern competition to people selling Librebooted laptops.

ynniv 9y ago

First, Lenovo doesn't receive any money when you buy a used laptop. Second, using a ten year old laptop sends a much stronger message than buying a new, slightly alternative laptop. Third, security is like history - if you want to get it right, you have to wait for rigors of time to reveal the truth. We think that Purism is at least as secure as Libreboot, but we know a lot more about ten year old hardware than something fresh off the fab in China.

lurker12390879 9y ago

Coreboot does run on their laptops, but it has too many blobs to make the Libre crowd happy. Purism has mentioned they may take interest in porting the rest of the way to libreboot someday. The real issue too is that a lot of naysayers dislike Purism because they provide modern competition to people selling Librebooted laptops.