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> ammunition Wat? Does US law not require ammunition be stored in a gun safe!?

by stephenr 9y ago

mikestew 9y ago
No, it does not, at least nowhere that I’ve ever heard of. Maybe someplace like Chicago, I dunno.
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jonknee 9y ago
Not just ammunition, US law doesn’t require guns to be stored in a safe or have something like a trigger lock. You can use your kitchen table to store all the loaded firearms you want.
- titzer 9y ago
  Depends on the state. CA has safe storage laws if minors are present: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/tips https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/tips
  - shaftway 9y ago
    And it's wise to follow them even if minors aren't present. If some kids are trespassing you can be held liable in a hurry.
    - gnicholas 9y ago
      If I recall law school correctly, this would generally not apply to trespassers, only to people you have invited onto your property. There is an exception to this general rule for "attractive nuisances", so if you put guns in a place where they were visible from the property line you might fall into that exception. Not saying one shouldn't use proper storage, only that liability probably would not result if you didn't (at least under federal law — as others have noted various states/cities have tighter laws).
patcheudor 9y ago
In some states like mine it's required you store ammunition under your pillow, loaded in your handgun. I'm only half joking.
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- Sohcahtoa82 9y ago
  Pretty sure it's required in the state of Paranoia.
monochromatic 9y ago
Guns go in the gun safe. Ammo goes in the ammo room.
KGIII 9y ago
I own a significant number of firearms. It isn't law but I recommend storing the ammunition in a second safe. I have multiple safes and, even without children in the home, keep ammo and firearms securely stored separately. On this subject, I'd also seriously recommend that people take advantage of the holes on the bottom, or rear, of your safe. Those are so you can secure the safe to the building. In my case, all the safes are attached to bolts embedded in both the floor and the walls. The basement room walls are concrete block and the door to the room is made of steel. If you have a sizable collection, or own any firearms that require an NFA tax stamp, your insurance company will probably suggest such things. But, even if you just have a handgun or Gramp's old shotgun, I'd still recommend keeping ammo stored separately.
- asfdsfggtfd 9y ago
  > On this subject, I'd also seriously recommend that people take advantage of the holes on the bottom, or rear, of your safe. Those are so you can secure the safe to the building. In UK you are required to attach the safe to your building. Using those holes is not optional!
  - KGIII 9y ago
    We have very different regulations here. A safe isn't even required. I own two firearms capable of fully automatic fire. The law doesn't even require I store them in a safe. I can strap one on and walk down the street, if I really wanted to. I should try to clarify that I am not a 'gun nut' but I am a 'firearm aficionado.' I belong to no militias, I don't plan on fighting the government, and I don't even belong to the NRA. I do hunt but mostly I just like to slaughter innocent bits of paper. If threatened, I'm almost certainly not going to shoot anyone. I am not interested in harming anyone. I was on a rifle and pistol team and later a Marine. I just like shooting stuff and I admire the engineering and art that is firearms. Sadly, I feel obligated to mention and clarify that. I find 'gun nuts' rather bothersome. They make it more difficult for me to be able to have rational discussions as they prejudice others against firearm ownership - and understandably so. If my only exposure were the reported violence in the news and 'gun nuts,' I'd want to ban them too. However, I'm a simple collector and much of my collection is because a friend of mine used to be a dealer and he keeps selling his collection to me, piece by piece. I'd rather they sit in my safes where I know they will be preserved. I have pieces I've never fired and never will. But, yeah... We don't actually even have to have them in a safe. I also live in a very, very rural area where they are tools and not toys. I don't think I know any local people who don't have a firearm. It's pretty different than what you're probably used to.
asciimo 9y ago
So refreshing to see incredulity when talking about US gun laws.
nsxwolf 9y ago
If your guns are for home protection how on earth would you be well served by needing to open a second safe to get your ammo?
- flukus 9y ago
  Exactly, that's why the responsible gun owner just protecting themselves is a myth, most times they are needed for self defense you won't have quick enough access if you are storing them responsibly.
- bergie 9y ago
  If you feel the need to have guns for home protection, it might be a better idea to move somewhere safer
  - Zpalmtree 9y ago
    That isn't really an option for a lot of people, unfortunately.
  - nsxwolf 9y ago
    Should I move to a fireproof home instead of own a fire extinguisher?
    - EADGBE 9y ago
      I don't know why everyone can't have a fireproof home, like me. /s
    - stephenr 9y ago
      When was the last time someone went on a killing spree with a fire extinguisher?
      - nsxwolf 9y ago
        I don't know. But there's been countless killing sprees with knives, and I have those in my kitchen drawer. Not even a locked drawer.

> ammunition Wat? Does US law not require ammunition be stored in a gun safe!?

mikestew 9y ago

No, it does not, at least nowhere that I’ve ever heard of. Maybe someplace like Chicago, I dunno.

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jonknee 9y ago

Not just ammunition, US law doesn’t require guns to be stored in a safe or have something like a trigger lock. You can use your kitchen table to store all the loaded firearms you want.

titzer 9y ago
Depends on the state. CA has safe storage laws if minors are present: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/tips https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/tips
- shaftway 9y ago
  And it's wise to follow them even if minors aren't present. If some kids are trespassing you can be held liable in a hurry.
  - gnicholas 9y ago
    If I recall law school correctly, this would generally not apply to trespassers, only to people you have invited onto your property. There is an exception to this general rule for "attractive nuisances", so if you put guns in a place where they were visible from the property line you might fall into that exception. Not saying one shouldn't use proper storage, only that liability probably would not result if you didn't (at least under federal law — as others have noted various states/cities have tighter laws).

patcheudor 9y ago

In some states like mine it's required you store ammunition under your pillow, loaded in your handgun. I'm only half joking.

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Sohcahtoa82 9y ago
Pretty sure it's required in the state of Paranoia.

monochromatic 9y ago

Guns go in the gun safe. Ammo goes in the ammo room.

KGIII 9y ago

I own a significant number of firearms. It isn't law but I recommend storing the ammunition in a second safe. I have multiple safes and, even without children in the home, keep ammo and firearms securely stored separately. On this subject, I'd also seriously recommend that people take advantage of the holes on the bottom, or rear, of your safe. Those are so you can secure the safe to the building. In my case, all the safes are attached to bolts embedded in both the floor and the walls. The basement room walls are concrete block and the door to the room is made of steel. If you have a sizable collection, or own any firearms that require an NFA tax stamp, your insurance company will probably suggest such things. But, even if you just have a handgun or Gramp's old shotgun, I'd still recommend keeping ammo stored separately.

asfdsfggtfd 9y ago
> On this subject, I'd also seriously recommend that people take advantage of the holes on the bottom, or rear, of your safe. Those are so you can secure the safe to the building. In UK you are required to attach the safe to your building. Using those holes is not optional!
- KGIII 9y ago
  We have very different regulations here. A safe isn't even required. I own two firearms capable of fully automatic fire. The law doesn't even require I store them in a safe. I can strap one on and walk down the street, if I really wanted to. I should try to clarify that I am not a 'gun nut' but I am a 'firearm aficionado.' I belong to no militias, I don't plan on fighting the government, and I don't even belong to the NRA. I do hunt but mostly I just like to slaughter innocent bits of paper. If threatened, I'm almost certainly not going to shoot anyone. I am not interested in harming anyone. I was on a rifle and pistol team and later a Marine. I just like shooting stuff and I admire the engineering and art that is firearms. Sadly, I feel obligated to mention and clarify that. I find 'gun nuts' rather bothersome. They make it more difficult for me to be able to have rational discussions as they prejudice others against firearm ownership - and understandably so. If my only exposure were the reported violence in the news and 'gun nuts,' I'd want to ban them too. However, I'm a simple collector and much of my collection is because a friend of mine used to be a dealer and he keeps selling his collection to me, piece by piece. I'd rather they sit in my safes where I know they will be preserved. I have pieces I've never fired and never will. But, yeah... We don't actually even have to have them in a safe. I also live in a very, very rural area where they are tools and not toys. I don't think I know any local people who don't have a firearm. It's pretty different than what you're probably used to.

asciimo 9y ago

So refreshing to see incredulity when talking about US gun laws.

nsxwolf 9y ago

If your guns are for home protection how on earth would you be well served by needing to open a second safe to get your ammo?

flukus 9y ago
Exactly, that's why the responsible gun owner just protecting themselves is a myth, most times they are needed for self defense you won't have quick enough access if you are storing them responsibly.
bergie 9y ago
If you feel the need to have guns for home protection, it might be a better idea to move somewhere safer
- Zpalmtree 9y ago
  That isn't really an option for a lot of people, unfortunately.
- nsxwolf 9y ago
  Should I move to a fireproof home instead of own a fire extinguisher?
  - EADGBE 9y ago
    I don't know why everyone can't have a fireproof home, like me. /s
  - stephenr 9y ago
    When was the last time someone went on a killing spree with a fire extinguisher?
    - nsxwolf 9y ago
      I don't know. But there's been countless killing sprees with knives, and I have those in my kitchen drawer. Not even a locked drawer.